Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by patchick, Apr 15, 2019.
Technically, Cooks two years ago not long after they traded for him.
Good call. That's the last one I can think of as well. Otherwise our first rounders either didn't pan out or were stolen from us. I'm not sure the 5th year is as valuable to us as it is to a team that may want to trade up for a specific position.
Yup. Since the 5th year option went into effect in 2011, potential 1st round options:
- 2011: drafted Solder, exercised it
- 2012: drafted Jones and Hightower, exercised it on both
- 2013: no first round pick, traded back
- 2014: drafted Easley, cut after year 2; acquired Cooks in 2017 and exercised on him
- 2015: drafted Brown, did not exercise. Acquired Dorsett in 2017 and did not exercise. Acquired Shelton in 2018 and also did not exercise
2016 first rounder was stolen and 2017 first rounder was traded for Cooks so nothing to exercise there. 2018 picks Wynn and Michel are only current people on roster who could be exercised, and that can’t be done until after 2020.
Here are some past draft WR rankings from Bob McGinn. He must have good sources because he's pretty accurate.
Rating the prospects: Wide receivers and tight ends
Rating the NFL draft prospects: Wide receivers and tight ends
Ranking the NFL draft prospects: Wide receivers, tight ends
Like I said I'm in the vast minority. I have taken a look at his tape and I just don't see it, minus the hands which are great.
If they take him I hope you're right. I would rather take Brown in the first or Isabella in the second.
Dalton Risner, for the reasons Patchix and Everlong give.
His performance in the Senior Bowl really showed off his leadership and competitiveness. I don’t care if he’s a Broncos fan.
2019 Senior Bowl: Penny Hart overshadows Andy Isabella on Thursday; L.J. Collier, Dalton Risner shine
The fan in me is rooting for this trade and it's exactly what they did to get Daniel Graham. I have a feeling he's off the board at 21. I've come to think they're trading down from #32 but with 12 picks they could use two to pick up Fant and still have a lot of ammo to fill in the other needs. I still think they're trading down from 32 but you never know.
I don't know the backstory on Dorsett. I believed that most of the time he was never a number 1 or 2 option. Once in a while a jet sweep or quick out but most of his catches were when Tom had time to look for someone other than Gronk or Edelman. Not saying he shouldn't have looked for them first, just one way for explaining lack of production for Dorsett. The Hogan before Dorsett is somewhat inexpicable unless Hogan's blocking was markedly superior to Dorsett. I thought Dorsett blocked well when I observed him. If Thomas performs all is well. Besides, I liked Bam Childress and Brian Tyms, so we know my evaluation is suspect.
I watched this mock at Rotoworld and it’s as entertaining a video mock draft as I’ve seen. It fearures Chris Simms, Josh Norris and another guy but it’s two hours long and really goes into detail on each pick. Very informative and I really like a lot of the picks (although the Pats pick wasn’t great - see spoiler below). I thoroughly recommend it if you have the time. It certainly gives you an idea of who might be available at 32.
Spoiler: Pats Pick
Josh Norris took Dre’mont Jones
Haven't had a chance to watch, and wouldn't be my first choice, but that could be considered
a redo of the Easley pick
Realistically we need speed and size at the wide receiver position. Preferably a true number 1 receiver. Edelman is the slot guy and Dorsett/draft pick could be number 2.
Problem is this draft is very light on #1 receivers. It is pack full of #2 and #3 receivers.
A trade for the bengals green solves so many issues for us. Now it is up to bb to sweet talk the bengals.
Green and Ross for a 2 solves alot of probs
I'm still driving the 32 for Rosen bus or Simmons or Lawrence anyone else will disapoint me.
Rosen for pick number 64? Seems like a bb type move.
Giants and chargers and redskins all have higher picks to offer than 64.
I would be over the moon if we got Rosen in waiting for 64.
Even if there were #1 receivers they would go too early for us to get them.
There will be 1-3 WR's chosen in the 31. The question is where we evaluate what's available, and how much we would lose in value in waiting or trading down. The same is true of TE's (only 2-3 in the case of TE's).
I think the only WRs possibly who could go in the first round are:
N’Keal Harry has an outside chance. Apparently the Seahawks are very interested.
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