DRAFT Patriots OFFICIAL Draft Day thread - Night 1

[Redman443]

Tee Higgins please, he would compliment Nkeal Harry. Sanu and Edelman are not physical receivers.

 

[scott99]

a study of the ‘great players’ we’ve missed out on by trading out would be an interesting project. That’s not sarcasm but genuine.

It’s mind boggling the great players we missed out on by trading down, too many to list.

 

[SVN]

Another reason why Brady left. He had enough of the trade outs. BB may as well just give the 2nd round pick away as his history with it is abysmal.

Yeah, not sure why he waited 20 yrs to leave. BB has done this since the beginning of dawn.

 

[Deus Irae]

SEC - 15 first round picks this year

 

[Kasmir]

End of third

It's much easier to move up into the 2nd than the 1st. The 4 third rounders he's accumulated are easily enough to get any position in the 2nd round. Could even get two low 2nd's for all four -- and still have 37.

2020 NFL Trade Value Chart

 

[fightingirish595]

Tee Higgins please, he would compliment Nkeal Harry. Sanu and Edelman are not physical receivers.

What do you like about Higgins

I do not really see how he compliments Harry

 

[SVN]

 

[manxman2601]

We won championships off the back of the 2010-13 drafts. Not perfect, but those netted some serious contributors. Since then it’s been Flowers, Mason, Thuney and White with a nod to Jimmy G but very little else.

 

[Kasmir]

a study of the ‘great players’ we’ve missed out on by trading out would be an interesting project. That’s not sarcasm but genuine.

Not that you're serious, but don't even bother unless you do it for other teams to establish a baseline.

 

[Redman443]

What do you like about Higgins

Higgins has size and is a red zone threat. Separation is an issue but that can be worked out.

 

[mgteich]

So... Kmet at 37 and Van Jefferson at 71, or Michael Pittman at 37 and Adam Trautman at 71?

Those are fine choices. I think another trade-down is very possible, although Belichick will very tempted by the safeties if one he wants is there at 37.

 

[fightingirish595]

Higgins has size and is a red zone threat. Separation is an issue but that can be worked out.

That sounds exactly like Harry

 

[captain stone]

WOAT! How many superbowl wins do you think Belichick cost the GOAT?

Four.

 

[Shockt327]

Tee Higgins please, he would compliment Nkeal Harry. Sanu and Edelman are not physical receivers.

"Julian is strong as s---. Some of these guys are 5-10, 190 and are thin-boned. You can push them around. They’re good 7-on-7 guys. He can block, can break a tackle and pound-for-pound is very strong. The guy’s toughness and competitiveness is in the one percent of people in the NFL. He is rare. He’s an absolute pit bull. Welker and (Danny) Amendola weren’t as physical. He’s a lot stronger. He’s so f---ing tough.

If you ask him to go inside and crack on (linebacker) C.J. Mosley. He’s thinking, I’ll go in there and knock the s--- out of him. (Braxton) Berrios will try it and be a bug on a windshield."

Great quote captures Edelman's toughness

 

[supafly]

Separation is an issue but that can be worked out.

Nooooooooo.

 

[captain stone]

...I think another trade-down is very possible, although Belichick will be very tempted by the Safeties if one he wants is there at 37.

Please, no...Whatever you do tomorrow Billy, for the sake of everything that is pure and decent in the world, for everyone's sakes, DO NOT DRAFT A DEFENSIVE BACK ON DAY 2!!!

 

[DropKickFlutie]

We won championships off the back of the 2010-13 drafts. Not perfect, but those netted some serious contributors. Since then it’s been Flowers, Mason, Thuney and White with a nod to Jimmy G but very little else.

Excellent drafts while O'Brien was around, the same 2005-2008 era crappy drafts back in 2013-now with McDaniels back.

.

 

[SEA_Pat]

Copied from pats subreddit.

2014: Easley - Bust
Garropolo - Traded
Stork - No longer in league
James White - Good Pick
Cam Fleming - Gone, Backup
Total picks - 9
Picks that benefit us in 2020 - 1...

That entire analysis was just lazy and wrong. For example, check out this year alone. Picks that benefit us = 1 based on James White. Here's what the Garropolo trade got us as per NBC Sports:

So, as a direct result of the Garoppolo trade, the Patriots have selected:
LB Christian Sam, sixth round, 2018
RB Damien Harris, third round, 2019

And they’ve used picks acquired in subsequent trades as part of the packages to draft:
CB Duke Dawson, second round, 2018
CB Joejuan Williams, second round, 2019
OT Yodny Cajuste, third round, 2019
QB Jarrett Stidham, fourth round, 2019

And the Patriots are not done:
Chicago’s fourth-round pick, 2020

So the "analysis" includes as a negative guys they've traded but doesn't include any of the benefits they received in those trades. In addition, if the guys they drafted played and contributed but aren't on the team now, they're discounted as having no value.

Garbage.

 

[Redman443]

NFL Draft & Combine Profile - Tamurice Higgins | NFL.com

 

[Deus Irae]

That entire analysis was just lazy and wrong. For example, check out this year alone. Picks that benefit us = 1 based on James White. Here's what the Garropolo trade got us as per NBC Sports:

So, as a direct result of the Garoppolo trade, the Patriots have selected:
LB Christian Sam, sixth round, 2018
RB Damien Harris, third round, 2019

And they’ve used picks acquired in subsequent trades as part of the packages to draft:
CB Duke Dawson, second round, 2018
CB Joejuan Williams, second round, 2019
OT Yodny Cajuste, third round, 2019
QB Jarrett Stidham, fourth round, 2019

And the Patriots are not done:
Chicago’s fourth-round pick, 2020

So the "analysis" includes as a negative guys they've traded but doesn't include any of the benefits they received in those trades. In addition, if the guys they drafted played and contributed but aren't on the team now, they're discounted as having no value.

Garbage.

You playing reindeer games with trade compensation is garbage. The JAG trade got one second round pick in return. That's it.