PostGame Thread Patriots Lose to The Cardinals 30-17 in Arizona

[PatsFan2]

Someone who follows these rankings can correct or confirm but according to the herald the patriots defense is ranked dead last DVOA

What's with us and Dead last we have worse Offense - Defense and Rookie WR's.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

If Kraft wanted to send a message he would fire Mayo tomorrow and name Van Pelt intem HC.

I’d honestly be fine with it.

Or really anyone being fired tomorrow.

There’s a point where a message needs to be sent that “try again next year” is not an acceptable outlook for NFL professionals.

 

[Brick27]

Don’t recall what sequence of plays it was or particular failure on the Pats of many.. but there was a point during the game where the broadcast cut to Bob and Jonathan watching on and visibly showing frustrating with what just happened. Johnathan basically pointing down and turning to Bob like, “WTF?”

That seemed very damning and telling, as usually they’re just sitting there stoic or talking to whatever person is joining them, regardless of game circumstance. Jonathan in particular is usually Mr. No Personality, and never high or low. I think that was pretty intriguing to see the frustration, and maybe heads could be on the chopping block more likely than we think ahead of next season.

 

[Love The Drake]

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Don’t recall what sequence of plays it was or particular failure on the Pats of many.. but there was a point during the game where the broadcast cut to Bob and Jonathan watching on and visibly showing frustrating with what just happened. Johnathan basically pointing down and turning to Bob like, “WTF?”

That seemed very damning and telling, as usually they’re just sitting there stoic or talking to whatever person is joining them, regardless of game circumstance. Jonathan in particular is usually Mr. No Personality, and never high or low. I think that was pretty intriguing to see the frustration, and maybe heads could be on the chopping block more likely than we think ahead of next season.

Conservative play calls that lead to a FG attempt.

 

[Ring 6]

If Kraft wanted to send a message he would fire Mayo tomorrow and name Van Pelt intem HC.

How would promoting the worst OC in the league send a message?

 

[upstater1]

I dont know why Jonathan gets a pass here. He's the biggest mover and shaker here and always has been. Not Bob.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Tell me you don't watch the games, without telling me you don't watch the games.

Umm... I immediately thought it and then one of the color commentators said the same exact thing seconds after that terrible throw (1st gif). We're not wrong. He'll have a Tebow wtf was that throw here and there (the 2 game ending INTs don't actually fall into this category) but for the most part have amazing throws (2nd gif - fyi, I created both of them while watching) like what happened immediately after. It was there in the 5 or so full college games of his I watched. It was there in his Pro Day. It's been there for the Pats but has been rapidly improving.

I really really like this kid and hope he keeps improving. Love his mindset, attitude, and play.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Boutte throwing Maye under the bus.

The guy has no idea how to sit in the zone. The throw was exactly where it needed to be to protect him.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Now he is throwing AVP under the bus!

The difference between the start and the 4th quarter? The Cardinals were still trying to play

 

[Lagaffe_07]

AVP can’t stay

 

[Love The Drake]

How would promoting the worst OC in the league send a message?

AVP can’t stay

I don’t think any of the coaches will be back.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

If Vrabel is the only option, then wait until next year. He can't win with a much better team he ain't winning here and he's a headcase who pisses off his players and also has been fighting for full control of a team which is why he didn't get a job last year.

If you have a shot at getting a real solid guy like Ben Johnson then do it. Interview him behind Mayo's back, I don't give a ****, Mayo should be put on notice anyways.

But if they really can only get a Vrabel type, pass, show the league you will give the next coach at least some time, try to get some more talent so we are a more attractive landing zone, and then clean house.

Gm is key

 

[festy1986]

How many studs are there in this draft?

I don't even like Hunter but by all considerations, he's gonna go in the top 5. Probably to the Patriots if this holds up.

 

[TommyD4207]

Another game that gets a coach fired. Won't be though.

He's a poor man's Jim Caldwell.

Jim Caldwell had a 14-2 season.
It will take Mayo 4 years to get 14 wins.

 

[TommyD4207]

WTF? He just dissed his own hand picked OC

AVP wasn't his pick.

 

[TommyD4207]

Mayo realized he threw AVP under the bus and quickly tried to damage control it. Too funny. Seriously though AVP can be upgraded upon and we need to look into it this offseason. Even in the playoffs teams are getting interviews for new coaches now.

This offense is going nowhere fast. And Maye isn't the problem. We saw his arm talent AND improvisation skills in back to back plays leading to our first TD against the Cardinals.

If Mayo could backpedal like this when he played, he wouldn't have gotten beaten out by Jamie Collins.

 

[Lavictoire]

At this point my main concern is for the Bills to knock the Chiefs out of the playoffs or the Lions to knock them out in the SB if it comes to that. Please no Steelers championships. Go Bills! (Or Lions)

 

[TommyD4207]

We suck. We get it. It is still better than the Mac years. What I don't get is how we aren't playing with desperation. We should be going for it on 4th down in the first quarter etc. Its like Mayo hasn't realized we have nothing to lose.

It's actually not.

 

[Lavictoire]

I legitimately feel bad for Maye. It sucks being a team that high draft picks would regret going to.

If he only could have succeeded Brady.

 

[Lavictoire]

No …..I’m honestly thinking that this is the WORST team and coaching staff in the history of the franchise….and there have been some really bad teams and coaches here

I dont know, they can make plays, I really think they need good coaching.