Patriots' Hernandez questioned by police in homicide probe

[Joker]

I do a lot of reading every day...mainly online newspapers. I just scanned the Globe and the Herald and as far as this story is right now...Ahern never left his house, was spotted looking out an upstairs window at 9 as the staties left and that's it...zippo...nada....zeroski...

this is all too quiet for my taste....and the story about the girl ENTERING his house escorted by the cops , getting some "things" and leaving strikes me as odd...guy catches his wife playing the beast with two backs with somebody at Ahern's 7000 sq. foot manse....goes jilted lover on the dude after following him down the road...crime of passion.

Hey, enough of us have seen enough in this life to know when something like this happens, it's either a crime of passion or drug related. If the cops found drugs at Ahern's he would have left in cuffs...so I'm thinking the angle involves this unidentified woman.

 

[Joker]

oh...and BTW...the green morons already have Ahern strapped on the table and ready for the needle....read down to the last four or five posts in this thread..starring "Hitman Harris"...I mean, the Rat fan's prowess at unintentional irony is unrivaled...

ABC News: Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez To Be Questioned About a Murder. - Page 9 - Jets Insider.com Forums

by tomorrow night, all Patriot players will be dirtier than Cromartie's mind at a nudist convention...

 

[ctpatsfan77]

by tomorrow night, all Patriot players will be dirtier than Cromartie's mind at a nudist convention...

Wait. . . . they didn't feel that way weeks/months/years ago?

 

[Joker]

OK...it's national now...CBS News this morning...4:22....a full workup...

smoke....fire...cliche....WTF is wrong with these young millionaires? How can you NOT know to keep your ***** wired tight at all times?

 

[Pewsterbaby]

OK...it's national now...CBS News this morning...4:22....a full workup...

smoke....fire...cliche....WTF is wrong with these young millionaires? How can you NOT know to keep your ***** wired tight at all times?

I was wonderin' if this was gonna go national. Yep, there's my answer. Joker, hawt on tha case at 4:30 in the morning! You kill me, man.

(what am I doin' up? I caught the flu on a Peter Pan bus coming off The Cape goin' back down ta NYC. My whole body is queasily sore and my mind is in some feverish Dali-esque dreamscape. It's pretty cool. heh heh heh.)

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Maybe I am wrong. Thought he ran with a bad crowd.

I thought he fell to the 4th round because of "off the field" issues.... what was that about?

 

[DarrylS]

In my daily quest for information what is happening in the world, came across these terrifically enlightening stories by our illustrious local press..

First from the Globe, the "reefer madness" angle....

Patriots

Hernandez has had prior off-field issues during his playing career.

NFL team sources told the Globe in 2010 that Hernandez, who played at Florida, slipped to the fourth round in the draft because of multiple failed drug tests for marijuana as a collegian.

He told teams at the NFL Scouting Combine that his drug use stemmed from the 2006 death of his father, Dennis, who died of complications following hernia surgery while Hernandez was a junior at Bristol (Conn.) Central High.

And then from the Herald... The "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous Angle"..

A North Attleboro detective disputed unsubstantiated Web reports Hernandez was being uncooperative.
“He’s there. He’s fine,” the detective told the Herald.
The University of Florida standout — and former college teammate of new Patriots acquisition Tim Tebow — is not considered a suspect, according to multiple reports.
Hernandez came to the door last night to open it for police.
The home is listed as having 7,100 square feet of living space with five bedrooms, six bathrooms, a movie theater and a pool with a waterfall.

- See more at: Aaron Hernandez quizzed in death probe | Boston Herald

 

[Clonamery]

In my daily quest for information what is happening in the world, came across these terrifically enlightening stories by our illustrious local press..

First from the Globe, the "reefer madness" angle....

Patriots



And then from the Herald... The "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous Angle"..



- See more at: Aaron Hernandez quizzed in death probe | Boston Herald

For the Media, the devil is in the details.

 

[Off The Grid]

I thought he fell to the 4th round because of "off the field" issues.... what was that about?

 

[DarrylS]

For the Media, the devil is in the details.

Or lack thereof, appealing to the lowest possible denominator..

 

[BSR]

heh...so...the "reports" by "tweeters" are shot down by a North Attleboro police investigator...well....color me...

It was ABC news that reported he was being uncooperative not "tweeters". Heh.

 

[DarrylS]

Youre always in such denial.

What if Hernandez would not answer police questions? Is he still being cooperative? If Hernandez is charged in this youll think of more excuses as to why hes innocent.

You really should work in the Whitehouse.

So you think he is guilty based on a bunch of tweets and no information???

Very innapropriate.. my commentary had to do with the angles of the press..

A person has a right to remain silent, but if you read on instead of reacting the police did say he was cooperative..

 

[Mack Herron]

...but only in the late evening....

 

[Clonamery]

Youre always in such denial.

What if Hernandez would not answer police questions? Is he still being cooperative? If Hernandez is charged in this youll think of more excuses as to why hes innocent.

You really should work in the Whitehouse.

Denial. Isn't that a River in Egypt?

Lot of ifs in your slightly incoherent post. Maybe you should stop smoking too.

Or remain silent because you "seem" to be guilty of something.......

 

[Pats0204]

Yeah, but if you were 100% innocent, wouldn't you want to have your name cleared immediately. If I rent a car for my friend in my name, and he winds up dead, and I'm 100% innocent, 1) I let the cops do whatever they want in my house, even without a lawyer present 2) Be as cooperative as possible, hell I'm bending over backwards giving the cops any info I could think of to help their case.

Being uncooperative and making the cops get a search warrant certainly looks suspicious. I don't feel good about this. Reminds me of the days following OJ's wife's murder. OJ was a hero to me growing up, and felt sick to my stomach during those days, chase and all. Now I hate OJ.

Totally disagree. I would not say one word without a lawyer present. In listening to SIRIUS satellite radio this morning on my drive in, Ross Tucker has already pretty much found Hernandez guilty. WTF happened to presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty? As one caller put it, "you get an attorney before saying one word. If you allow the police to search your house or speak to them you open up your whole life and everyone has SOMETHING to hide". I wouldn't allow a search, nor would I say a single thing to the police until I hired an attorney.

 

[50-yard-line]

Youre always in such denial.

What if Hernandez would not answer police questions? Is he still being cooperative? If Hernandez is charged in this youll think of more excuses as to why hes innocent.

You really should work in the Whitehouse.

Rule #1 when entangled in anything with the legal system: SAY or DO nothing without the advise of a lawyer.

Rule #2 when entangled in anything with the legal system: See Rule#1 above.

"Whitehouse" is a Senator from Rhode Island.

 

[Rob0729]

Hernandez had a pretty solid upbringing. His older brother was in college 3 years ahead of him, and his father, who died when Aaron was 17, was a football guy who they revered, and he was a disciplinarian. They were from New Britain though, but I don't think the family had it tough.

According to Greg Bedard, the opposite is true. Hernandez had a pretty rough upbringing and many teams passed on him because they knew he was associated with gangs in high school. Bedard seems to have direct knowledge that he still has some bad apples from his past hanging on and; either by by loyalty, friendship, or unable to shake them; Hernandez has allowed them to stick around. Bedard said, on a personal level, Hernandez might have been better off playing in Seattle rather than an hour or two away from his hometown.

He made it sound like Hernandez's gang past and the bad elements in his life were pretty common knowledge among people who cover the team.

I thought I heard he had some bad elements in his past.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Unless Hernandez is phenomenally dumb (which does not seem to be the case) or was under the influence of a substance that impaired his judgment, it is hard to imagine that a guy with so much at stake would be directly involved in a homicide. So, I'm going to assume that he wasn't.

I just hope that he understood or was able to understand at the time that protecting someone who actually had been involved in a homicide could make him an accomplice, even if he felt he was just helping a friend.

Because he has been such a great player and, from all reports, such a good guy, we, or at least I, had forgotten that when he was drafted he was viewed as a risky pick who fell to a later round because of drug-related issues in College. I thought and still assume that that is ancient history.

For his sake and the team's sake, I hope that this turns out to be nothing more than Hernandez' being in or near the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong friends.

 

[upstater1]

According to Greg Bedard, the opposite is true. Hernandez had a pretty rough upbringing and many teams passed on him because they knew he was associated with gangs in high school. Bedard seems to have direct knowledge that he still has some bad apples from his past hanging on and; either by by loyalty, friendship, or unable to shake them; Hernandez has allowed them to stick around. Bedard said, on a personal level, Hernandez might have been better off playing in Seattle rather than an hour or two away from his hometown.

He made it sound like Hernandez's gang past and the bad elements in his life were pretty common knowledge among people who cover the team.

I thought I heard he had some bad elements in his past.

You have to understand something. I've been following Aaron's career since he was 15. Maybe earlier, but definitely 15. As a freshman in HS< he raised eyebrows in Conn. And with his brother going to UConn, he was on people's radar.

Read this: Florida tight end Hernandez honors father's memory - USATODAY.com

Both of us could be correct. I actually said that in my earlier post. I wrote that I knew he had a strong family background, his Dad was a sports guy and disciplinarian, and that the family was middle class. After his father died, he might have fallen in with a bad crowd. But then he's in Florida?

Read the article.

I still want to know what people are talking about when it comes to his bad behavior. Is it marijuana?

 

[upstater1]

Like I said, I'm by no means getting on him for what I deem as past "maturity" issues, and I do not/would not consider anything as being remotely relevant to this particular matter--so let me be clear in stating that first. However, your choice to paint him as a model citizen with a great upbringing is not correct either.

Since you wanted some examples or proof, we can start with repeated drug use where he failed "multiple" tests from a period of 2006 in high school all the way to 2009/2010 at Florida right before he was drafted. To be honest, it was the primary concern and #1 reason why he fell to the 4th round to begin with, hence the irony that someone else brought up in another comment.

Patriots draft pick Hernandez failed marijuana tests - The Boston Globe

If you'd like to take it one step further, another article from the Boston.com website even goes on to use my exact wording:

"Hernandez still had maturity issues from time to time, and failed drug tests at the University of Florida are the reason he lasted until the fourth round of the 2010 draft, when the Patriots took him with the 113th selection.

Those mistakes cost him a lot of money. His signing bonus was $200,000, and nearly half his salaries each season were made up of roster and workout bonuses in order to provide a carrot for Hernandez to be all that he could be."

As someone who has needed second and even third chances before completely reached my maturity level stemming from past mistakes (with drugs, arrests, and poor decisions etc) I can vouch that many of us need a second chance--sometimes even more; but claiming Hernandez never had any challenges or maturity issues in his past is simply incorrect.

He smoked pot. So did the President. And the President before him. No arrests, etc.