Packers 2011 vs Pats 2007 (merged)

[Rob0729]

I think I agree with the sentiment that the Packs may have a better offense and the Patriots had the better team. I give the edge to the Pack's offense because their receiving corp from top to bottom was better although none of their guys are as good as Moss was or possibly Welker (Although Jennings and Nelson are damn good), but their #3-5 WR is better and so is their TE. The Packers also have a better running game.

The Packers' defense is pretty mediocre though. They have some big playmakers, but they give up a lot of points and yards. The Packers are giving up 384.8 yards per game and 20.7 PPG. The 2007 Patriots gave up 288.3 yards per game and 17.1 PPG. Both teams' defenses had the advantage of the opposing team's offense getting one dimensional in shootouts, but the Pats were more successful on odefense.

The Pats' average margin of victory was 19.7 PPG and the Packers' is currently 14.9 PPG. That supports the argument that the Pats' overall team was better.

 

[blackglass3]

I'm wondering if the Packers are peaking right now. Plus, as others pointed out; the further this goes the more teams will start really gunning for them. 16-0 is possible, but then we lucked out with a joke of a Jaguars team and an LdT-less AND injured Rivers Chargers. The chances of the Packers lucking out twice in the playoffs before the Super Bowl is not as likely.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm wondering if the Packers are peaking right now. Plus, as others pointed out; the further this goes the more teams will start really gunning for them. 16-0 is possible, but then we lucked out with a joke of a Jaguars team and an LdT-less AND injured Rivers Chargers. The chances of the Packers lucking out twice in the playoffs before the Super Bowl is not as likely.

JAX was playing very well at the end of the year. So were the G'ints. SD was riding a wave and still had Michael Turner. Rivers' play cancelled out Brady's poor game.

 

[PatsGirl2011]

All I know is the Pats peaked too early in the season in 2007. They peaked by week 10. After that it was the status quo the rest of the way with teams developing the blue print that the Giants finally succeeded with. I still think the Pats in 2007 is better than this Packers team even on offense.

 

[ausbacker]

Bears versus Packers is going to be a good game.

 

[Yehoodi]

What people don't realize about our 07 campaign is how hard our schedule was. We beat Indy and Dallas who were also undefeated at the time of our meetings, and we were on the road for both. Had the browns not yakked and let the titans in on the final day, we would have played every AFC playoff team and three of the six NFC playoff teams. Our division sucked, but we played a big part in making everyone else suck. It really was a brutal schedule. I don't think the Packers' sched is as easy as everyone says, but it doesn't touch our 07 season.

Agreed 110% . . . one of the many things that bothered me about not be able to close the deal, was how big of a stamp it would of been, it would of been the biggest stamp of all stamps . . . the Spygate fiasco and nice little 19-0 would of been a great response . . .

but also, as you mentioned and I bolded, we played basically as many playoff teams as we possible could have, whilst playing the #1 NFC (DAL) and #2 AFC (COLTS) (not to mention the ref hung a franchise record 140+ penatly yards on us) in their house, and came within one point of setting a record for points in Cowboy stadium . . .

On top of all of this, every team and I mean every team brought their A game against us . . . Indeed, the teams were so spent after playing us, they were a combined 1-14 in the next game (Phil won and I don't include the Gmen as it was the end of the season), meanwhile we left that same game being spent but did not go 1-14, but had prepare and play and went 15-0 and our subsequent game as a dogfight too, each week,

So bottom line, the 2007 Pats had to face one team short of all the playoff teams possible, the #1 and #2 seeds away, and came out of dogfight games in which the opponent could only must one win to our 15 . . .

I would of love to put a SB stamp on that and ask anyone to make a schedule and record with the above . . .

 

[BradysBunch12]

Is this what announcers are like with Brady? "Wow look at Rodgers throw a 10 yard slant pass. How accurate is he! I've never seen the quarterback position played at this level!"

 

[patsinthesnow]

Probably a homer statement but the Pats could be 9-0 with that schedule. They never lose opening day and the Bears game would've been only other challenge.

 

[andrewgarrr]

28 TDs
3 INT
72.9% Completion
9-0 W-L

Best QB performance in nine games in recent NFL history. BB and Brady always say you have to play your best football after Thanksgiving. The way they are playing now, they have a real shot at 16-0 and even 19-0. Hopefully, they go 18-1 at best.

 

[eric5280]

Wow just looked up Brady's 2007 numbers and they're pretty much on par with Rodgers through 9 games if we exclude rushing yards/tds

Brady 9 games, 219-299 73.24%, 2,686yds, 8.98ypa 33tds, 4ints 131.8 passer rating
Rodgers 9 games, 215-295 72.88% 2,869yds, 9.73ypa 28tds, 3ints 130.7 passer rating

 

[randomk1]

Is this what announcers are like with Brady? "Wow look at Rodgers throw a 10 yard slant pass. How accurate is he! I've never seen the quarterback position played at this level!"

Lulz you haven't noticed that before?

I'm not sure but i think Jon Gruden is jealous of Giselle...

 

[BSR]

The biggest seeming difference to is the hype around each team. The undefeated season talk for the Pats was almost immediate, with Collinsworth first mentioning it after the second game of the season. After that it was a weekly spectacle and must see TV, with every national game having record numbers. Every week it seemed like we were tracking records that could be broken as they steamrolled every team they faced. And as many have mentioned, all this happened during a time were there were several elite teams playing at the highest levels in Indy, San Diego, Green Bay and Dallas. Heck Indy would have been talking perfect season that year as well if it wasn't for the Pats.

This season certainly doesn't have that feel, maybe because 2007 was so recent and it doesn't feel like anything new. Or maybe its because GB is a smaller market and the hype is building slower. It officially doesn't reach 2007 level hype until Mercury Morris crawls out of his box to give his opinion.

 

[sieglo]

The question is not whether the 2011 Packers are better than the 2007 Patriots. The question is whether they're better than the 2011 Patriots.

 

[ExpatPack]

The question is not whether the 2011 Packers are better than the 2007 Patriots. The question is whether they're better than the 2011 Patriots.

Give that man a cigar.

 

[ExpatPack]

This season certainly doesn't have that feel, maybe because 2007 was so recent and it doesn't feel like anything new. Or maybe its because GB is a smaller market and the hype is building slower. It officially doesn't reach 2007 level hype until Mercury Morris crawls out of his box to give his opinion.

Which he will probably do after the Thanksgiving game if the Packers are still undefeated.

 

[makoute]

The biggest seeming difference to is the hype around each team. The undefeated season talk for the Pats was almost immediate, with Collinsworth first mentioning it after the second game of the season. After that it was a weekly spectacle and must see TV, with every national game having record numbers. Every week it seemed like we were tracking records that could be broken as they steamrolled every team they faced. And as many have mentioned, all this happened during a time were there were several elite teams playing at the highest levels in Indy, San Diego, Green Bay and Dallas. Heck Indy would have been talking perfect season that year as well if it wasn't for the Pats.

This season certainly doesn't have that feel, maybe because 2007 was so recent and it doesn't feel like anything new. Or maybe its because GB is a smaller market and the hype is building slower. It officially doesn't reach 2007 level hype until Mercury Morris crawls out of his box to give his opinion.

There was a lot more hatred towards the Pats too.

 

[Dutchmaster617]

The question is not whether the 2011 Packers are better than the 2007 Patriots. The question is whether they're better than the 2011 Patriots.

This, the Pats could beat them today without Moss, Asante, Harrison, Seymour etc.

 

[Lansdowne]

The Packers Are 9-0, And The 1972 Dolphins Are Already Insufferable About It

Can't wait until every last one of those clowns are pushing daisies. Congrats, you ran the table on a schedule with opponents with a combined .372 winning percentage. Now go away.

 

[NEP4Life]

Mercury Morris likes the 2011 Packers better than the 2007 Patriots

Mercury Morris likes the 2011 Packers better than the 2007 Patriots | ProFootballTalk



Bob Kraft needs to send these old Phins players some autographed jerseys or something. They sure have a chip on their shoulder.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

Re: Mercury Morris likes the 2011 Packers better than the 2007 Patriots

Mercury Morris likes the 2011 Packers better than the 2007 Patriots | ProFootballTalk



Bob Kraft needs to send these old Phins players some autographed jerseys or something. They sure have a chip on their shoulder.

How about a fish in a newspaper.