OT: Urban Meyer put on paid leave by Ohio State.

[TB_Helmet]

https://www.theonion.com/ohio-state-puts-urban-meyer-on-paid-secret-coaching-lea-1828059245

Some good info in here.

“We’re taking this investigation seriously, which is why Urban Meyer is being asked to stay away from the university in any professional capacity except developing game plans, making roster decisions, and otherwise overseeing every aspect of the football team through clandestine back channels,” said Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith, adding that Meyer agreed that training camp would be better served if he pretended to stay away from the team during the inquiry. “These are extremely disturbing allegations, and it’s better for everyone involved if Coach Meyer isn’t performing any of his coaching duties publicly. He won’t be permitted on university property when cameras are present, and Ryan Day will purport to serve as acting head coach while he’s hiding somewhere during games feeding instructions to the staff.” Smith also stated that the investigation would end and Meyer could rejoin the team on the field as soon as evidence clearly indicated that the Buckeyes had lost even one game.

 

[LaterGator]

Meyer is going no where soon. He turned a deaf ear to clear domestic violence. Something he is contractually obligated to report. After he reports it, it's up to his superiors at OSU to take further action. If he does that much he's not obligated to do more.

This is not nearly as bad as Sandusky and Penn State with the sex abuse, but it's very damning.

 

[TheRainMaker]

He's done.

 

[Thelonious]

For generations, Puritanism was rightly associated with cultural conservatism. These days, all the mindless, febrile puritanical prigs are pc leftists , with "academics" being the worst of the lot. So, Urban is done for, of course. Too bad.

 

[Froob]

No matter what the punishment is I’m going to say Urban Meyer and Ohio State got off way too easy.

 

[Froob]

If you got accused of beating your wife with fairly credible evidence and your boss found out, you'd be fired. Urban Meyer was the boss and chose to cover it up instead. How are people seriously not getting this?

Certainly wouldn’t say that’s a guarantee, but the cover up is bad.

 

[catent]

For generations, Puritanism was rightly associated with cultural conservatism. These days, all the mindless, febrile puritanical prigs are pc leftists , with "academics" being the worst of the lot. So, Urban is done for, of course. Too bad.

Yeah, god forbid that someone who was made aware of physical abuse within a relationship and failed to report it be legally and ethically held accountable for his actions. The horror.

 

[LaterGator]

Meyer might be able to fire an assistant for many reasons. In this case all Meyer legally had to do is report it up the chain for any violation he is aware of. From that point on it's up to the officials at OSU to investigate and/or report to other authorities.

Any cover up is totally illegal before we even get to ethics

 

[Huckleberry1]

Heartbreaking.

 

[Thelonious]

Yeah, god forbid that someone who was made aware of physical abuse within a relationship and failed to report it be legally and ethically held accountable for his actions. The horror.

How gloriously virtuous you totalitarians are. Stalin would be proud of such vigilance. Re-read 1984,if you read.

 

[LaterGator]

How gloriously virtuous you totalitarians are. Stalin would be proud of such vigilance. Re-read 1984,if you read.

If Meyer covered this up he broke the frikkin' law. . This is not about political correctness or Puritanical doctrine. It's doing what you are legally obligated to do. And it wouldn't have taken a lot to have obeyed the law - period!

 

[supafly]

Meyer is going no where soon. He turned a deaf ear to clear domestic violence. Something he is contractually obligated to report. After he reports it, it's up to his superiors at OSU to take further action. If he does that much he's not obligated to do more.

This is not nearly as bad as Sandusky and Penn State with the sex abuse, but it's very damning.

Meyer might be able to fire an assistant for many reasons. In this case all Meyer legally had to do is report it up the chain for any violation he is aware of. From that point on it's up to the officials at OSU to investigate and/or report to other authorities.

If Meyer covered this up he broke the frikkin' law. . This is not about political correctness or Puritanical doctrine. It's doing what you are legally obligated to do. And it wouldn't have taken a lot to have obeyed the law - period!

I’m finding it difficult to read you. Do you believe that he did what was required by him and that he’s “not going anywhere soon,” or do you believe that he “broke the law,” which would guarantee his permanent removal?

 

[LaterGator]

I’m finding it difficult to read you. Do you believe that he did what was required by him and that he’s “not going anywhere soon,” or do you believe that he “broke the law,” which would guarantee his permanent removal?

It APPEARS he did not do what he is compelled to do by law, that is report it up the chain. If that is found to be true be could be fired or face other penalties.

Until this is resolved one way or another, he will most likely not be moving on to another position.

My opinion is he ignored the abuse and doing so helped to cover this up, but that means diddly squat.

 

[Boogs]

I wonder if some of this is another thing with the "Me Too" movement.

Do you fire your assistant coach for allegations? There's 2 sides to every story. I'd have to have all the details over this to make a judgment on whether Urban should be fired because he didn't fire an assistant over allegations. You don't know if she hit him first. And also, if she did, hit him first, should she lose her job? However, if the assistant was a wife beater, yeah I'd not want him around. I wouldn't feel right with him being around.

 

[Boogs]

As far as the overtraining and injury allegations, I can believe it. Some coaches and strength coaches are idiots. Especially some of the old school guys.

Then also the mental abuse aspect, it's probably real. I had a couple of coaches that were all about mind games. It got ridiculous. It shouldn't happen, but talking with other former high school athletes, I think it was rampant. And probably rare if you didn't have a coach that wasn't playing mind games with the verbal abuse.

My brother actually had a high school baseball coach that was physically abusive..

 

[scout]

No, I mean requiring people to rat out their friends/neighbors/co-workers/etc... That's despicable.

Just as long as it does not interfere with your team. Should police or criminals rat out each other? Meyer signed a contract that ethically held him to report abuse. You say he should not rat out the despicable subordinate who beat his wife. Ethics is so meaningless.

 

[LaterGator]

I wonder if some of this is another thing with the "Me Too" movement.

Do you fire your assistant coach for allegations? There's 2 sides to every story. I'd have to have all the details over this to make a judgment on whether Urban should be fired because he didn't fire an assistant over allegations. You don't know if she hit him first. And also, if she did, hit him first, should she lose her job? However, if the assistant was a wife beater, yeah I'd not want him around. I wouldn't feel right with him being around.

This is part of why they are legally obligated to report it to higher authorities at the university in this case OSU. It should get to the proper body Title 9 officer or even police/courts. They do the investigation. Being punished over allegations is extremely unfair and damaging. Due process should be the order of the day.

Meyer's immediate legal obligation was to report alleged abuse he is suspects to his superiors.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Yeah, god forbid that someone who was made aware of physical abuse within a relationship and failed to report it be legally and ethically held accountable for his actions. The horror.

That's fine. Then why haven't we found out the names of all her relatives who reportedly told her not to call 911 and made sure they all lose their jobs? Why is Urban Meyer the only one seemingly responsible for all this?

 

[Deus Irae]

Just as long as it does not interfere with your team. Should police or criminals rat out each other? Meyer signed a contract that ethically held him to report abuse. You say he should not rat out the despicable subordinate who beat his wife. Ethics is so meaningless.

Interference with my team is irrelevant, and I'm not an Ohio State fan.

As for your comment on ethics, you should look to yourself on that issue. You've lied about what I've said, despite my posts being right here in this thread. I did not say that he "should not rat out the despicable subordinate who beat his wife".

 

[Deus Irae]

Yeah, god forbid that someone who was made aware of physical abuse within a relationship and failed to report it be legally and ethically held accountable for his actions. The horror.

Exactly. It's a vile and evil thing.