OT: Steelers Looking to Acquire Trevor Lawrence

[Froob]

Lawrence isn't anything special, but they don't have another option and would owe a **** ton in dead cap. Honestly, if I were Pitt I'd rather just sign Rodgers or Kirk.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Was Grilled Cheese the original source for this rumor?

Wonder what ever became of that thread?

 

[Ross12]

This trade actually does make a lot of sense for both sides.

It lets Jacksonville get out of having to pay out the option bonuses and start over at QB, and also get a decent return in picks for him.

For Pitt, Lawrence is an upgrade and with his signing bonus money being removed from the deal, he becomes pretty affordable for the next several seasons. His huge $50M+ salaries don't start until 2029 and they're not guaranteed, so if he isn't worth those by then, they can just cut him and take a one time ~$50M dead money hit at that time instead. By 2029, that amount of money probably won't be as painful. If he IS worth that, they'll restructure that into a signing bonus and extension.

 

[maust]

Making the trade loophole in his contract even more interesting is Jacksonville is currently without a GM and for the moment there's a 1st time HC at the helm

 

[RobertWeathers]

This trade actually does make a lot of sense for both sides.

It lets Jacksonville get out of having to pay out the option bonuses and start over at QB, and also get a decent return in picks for him.

For Pitt, Lawrence is an upgrade and with his signing bonus money being removed from the deal, he becomes pretty affordable for the next several seasons. His huge $50M+ salaries don't start until 2029 and they're not guaranteed, so if he isn't worth those by then, they can just cut him and take a one time ~$50M dead money hit at that time instead. By 2029, that amount of money probably won't be as painful. If he IS worth that, they'll restructure that into a signing bonus and extension.

Deal-wise it makes sense for Pitt.

For JAX lotta dead money on the JAX cap table and you don't have a QB.

I can't imagine Coen would want to have a crack at coaching him.

If Coen/Lawrence doesn't work in 2025 then they can move him in the offseason.

 

[Love The Drake]

Jaguars Call Idea Of Trading Trevor Lawrence 'Ridiculous'

Update: Mark Kaboly says Pittsburgh "in no way imaginable" spoke with the Jaguars about a trade for Lawrence and adds they have no interest in a trade. ESPN's Michael DiRocco reports, citing a team source,

nfltraderumors.co

 

[mike_usagisan]

Jaguars Call Idea Of Trading Trevor Lawrence 'Ridiculous'

Update: Mark Kaboly says Pittsburgh "in no way imaginable" spoke with the Jaguars about a trade for Lawrence and adds they have no interest in a trade. ESPN's Michael DiRocco reports, citing a team source,

nfltraderumors.co

And now Jacksonville shoots down the idea to calm Lawrence down. While also signalling to teams that "We're listening to offers."

 

[oldrover]

This trade actually does make a lot of sense for both sides.

It lets Jacksonville get out of having to pay out the option bonuses and start over at QB, and also get a decent return in picks for him.

For Pitt, Lawrence is an upgrade and with his signing bonus money being removed from the deal, he becomes pretty affordable for the next several seasons. His huge $50M+ salaries don't start until 2029 and they're not guaranteed, so if he isn't worth those by then, they can just cut him and take a one time ~$50M dead money hit at that time instead. By 2029, that amount of money probably won't be as painful. If he IS worth that, they'll restructure that into a signing bonus and extension.

 

[The Gr8est]

I am not sure why sites like OTC think Lawrence has so much dead money from a trade if most of the future cap hits are from option bonuses. As I understand it, those option bonuses would become the responsibility of the acquiring team, so they wouldn't hit Jax's cap at all. It seems more like Jax's dead money would be more along the lines of $30M, which is only about $12M more than Lawrence's 2025 cap hit. They have $32M in cap space (probably more, if the cap goes up as assumed) so they can absorb that and make a couple moves.

They Steelers would likely send a haul starting with the #21 pick and another couple future 1sts. Jacksonville already has #5 overall and could be eyeing Sanders. Could see them doing that, and Liam Coen signing Chris Godwin to a deal to pair with Brian Thomas. Then using pick 21 on a left tackle.

I HOPE teams are eyeing Sanders.

Let the trade up competition begin!

 

[sb1]

How would their cap work if he's traded after June 1?

Trevor Lawrence Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap

Trevor Lawrence contract and salary cap details, including signing bonus, guaranteed salary, dead money, roster bonuses, and contract history

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If he's traded then why isn't the Jags cap charge $30M since his signing bonus would accelerate to this year?

 

[Ross12]

How would their cap work if he's traded after June 1?

Trevor Lawrence Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap

Trevor Lawrence contract and salary cap details, including signing bonus, guaranteed salary, dead money, roster bonuses, and contract history

overthecap.com

If he's traded then why isn't the Jags cap charge $30M since his signing bonus would accelerate to this year?

OTC's numbers look wrong IMO.

They need to trade him in early March because his option bonus gets paid out early in the league year.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

Please please please let them do this! It would almost guarantee several more years of sucking for Jax and mediocrity for Mikey ….as usual, right where he fits in. Hopefully he doesn’t try to trip someone this year.

 

[rochrist]

************. You think he’s much closer to being a High School QB than a winner?

Those are some harsh words.

Harsh but fair.

 

[rochrist]

I am not sure why sites like OTC think Lawrence has so much dead money from a trade if most of the future cap hits are from option bonuses. As I understand it, those option bonuses would become the responsibility of the acquiring team, so they wouldn't hit Jax's cap at all. It seems more like Jax's dead money would be more along the lines of $30M, which is only about $12M more than Lawrence's 2025 cap hit. They have $32M in cap space (probably more, if the cap goes up as assumed) so they can absorb that and make a couple moves.

They Steelers would likely send a haul starting with the #21 pick and another couple future 1sts. Jacksonville already has #5 overall and could be eyeing Sanders. Could see them doing that, and Liam Coen signing Chris Godwin to a deal to pair with Brian Thomas. Then using pick 21 on a left tackle.

Why in god's name would Pitts give up even ONE 1st rounder let along THREE?

 

[Ross12]

Why in god's name would Pitts give up even ONE 1st rounder let along THREE?

For Trevor Lawrence on a very affordable contract? Really?

 

[Pape]

I have no idea why Jacksonville would make this move, unless Mac Jones has somehow made them believe he can be their guy moving forward...?

any way they can get yeeked for tampering?

 

[ahmed]

I have no idea why Jacksonville would make this move, unless Mac Jones has somehow made them believe he can be their guy moving forward...?

If I were the Jags, I would bite their hand off. He has the worst contract in the league by far and he is an average QB at best.

 

[Pape]

Wonder what ever became of that thread?

 

[Pape]

If I were the Jags, I would bite their hand off. He has the worst contract in the league by far and he is an average QB at best.

nah, watson has the worst deal in the league

 

[Ross12]

Could also see Liam Coen wanting to sign Sam Darnold kind of as an equivalent to Baker Mayfield in Tampa.