OT: Richard Seymour, Sam Mills, Tony Boselli, LeRoy Butler, Bryant Young among Hall of Fame Class of 2022

[Zuma]

Sam Mills, Richard Seymour, Tony Boselli, LeRoy Butler, Bryant Young among Hall of Fame Class of 2022

The Pro Football Hall of Fame announced the Class of 2022 on Thursday night at NFL Honors.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

 

[Zuma]

Very happy to see Seymour make it

"Seymour spent the first eight seasons of his 12-year NFL career with the Patriots and played an important role in delivering six division titles, four conference crowns and three Super Bowl championships to New England. He was named to five straight Pro Bowls with the Patriots (2002-06) and earned three straight first-team All-Pro honors (2003-05). His five Pro Bowl berths are the most by any Patriots defensive lineman since the 1970 NFL merger. He was also a four-time team co-captain. In 2009, he was voted to the Patriots 50th Anniversary Team and the 2000s All-Decade Team."

 

[Kasmir]

I think we can now finally close the book on the Seymour vs David Terrell draft pick controversy.

Ron Borges: "If you didn't know better, you'd think the Jets sent Bill
Belichick north to destroy the Patriots from within. On a day when they
could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson or the
second-best tackle in the draft in Kenyatta Walker, they took Georgia
defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sack last season in the
pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play
defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where
they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and
settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon unless last
year's draftees Adrian Klemm and Greg Robinson-Randle are busts."

 

[Zuma]

I think we can now finally close the book on the Seymour vs David Terrell draft pick controversy.

Ron Borges: "If you didn't know better, you'd think the Jets sent Bill
Belichick north to destroy the Patriots from within. On a day when they
could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson or the
second-best tackle in the draft in Kenyatta Walker, they took Georgia
defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sack last season in the
pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play
defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where
they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and
settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon unless last
year's draftees Adrian Klemm and Greg Robinson-Randle are busts."

These clowns don't get it's not about stats. A-holes.

 

[Kasmir]

Let's hope Wilfork gets in soon, too. He and Seymour were two of the very best...

 

[Zuma]

 

[RobertWeathers]

Imo Sey, Boselli and Mills were deserving shoo-ins

Young fine.

Butler?

Rodney blows him out of the water. Jesus

 

[signbabybrady]

Imo Sey, Boselli and Mills were deserving shoo-ins

Young fine.

Butler?

Rodney blows him out of the water. Jesus

Rodney is better than half the safeties in the hall probably more. It's nuts. Way better than Butler.

 

[Patsfan1958]

Congrats to Seymour!! A well deserved honor.

 

[1960Pats]

I think we can now finally close the book on the Seymour vs David Terrell draft pick controversy.

Ron Borges: "If you didn't know better, you'd think the Jets sent Bill
Belichick north to destroy the Patriots from within. On a day when they
could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson or the
second-best tackle in the draft in Kenyatta Walker, they took Georgia
defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sack last season in the
pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play
defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where
they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and
settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon unless last
year's draftees Adrian Klemm and Greg Robinson-Randle are busts."

I bet Borges doesn't care how foolish he looks or sounds.

At the time there were quite a few Pats fans who didn't like the Seymour trade at all. The fact that it took the Pats 10 years to win the next SB didn't help.

It's good to see that Seymour made it. He deserves it.

 

[Kontradiction]

LOL at LeRoy Butler over Rodney. Congrats to Big Sey, though!

 

[TommyD4207]

Imo Sey, Boselli and Mills were deserving shoo-ins

Young fine.

Butler?

Rodney blows him out of the water. Jesus

Even Young is iffy, he ain't **** unless he's next to Dana Stubblefield.

But Leroy Butler is a hall of famer, and Rodney can't get a sniff. Absolute joke.

 

[stinkypete]

LeRoy Butler and Rodney Harrison are about equally deserving. Maybe Rodney gets the nod because he was part of a dynasty, while Butler's Packers only got over the top once, but they are pretty close. Some serious homeriam going on here,

 

[Brick27]

Great to see Seymour in amidst several head scratchers. Surprised Ware didn’t make it.

 

[Gumby]

I bet Borges doesn't care how foolish he looks or sounds.

At the time there were quite a few Pats fans who didn't like the Seymour trade at all. The fact that it took the Pats 10 years to win the next SB didn't help.

It's good to see that Seymour made it. He deserves it.

I don’t think BB liked the trade either, but felt he had to do it. I sometimes wonder if Sey would have made ‚the difference ‚ on some of those middling teams

 

[1960Pats]

I don’t think BB liked the trade either, but felt he had to do it. I sometimes wonder if Sey would have made ‚the difference ‚ on some of those middling teams

I think he made a difference on the Raiduhs. The draft pick we got from them was worse than expected.

 

[TommyD4207]

LeRoy Butler and Rodney Harrison are about equally deserving. Maybe Rodney gets the nod because he was part of a dynasty, while Butler's Packers only got over the top once, but they are pretty close. Some serious homeriam going on here,

Butler was like, the 4th best guy on his own defense. The only reason he got any pub at all is because Green Bay was good, and he was the only name in that secondary.

 

[Gumby]

Butler was like, the 4th best guy on his own defense. The only reason he got any pub at all is because Green Bay was good, and he was the only name in that secondary.

Probowl-nods are like prom queen votes. Mostly useless, suspect, and at least one-year behind the player‘s actual performance.

HoF voters use those probowl votes as like 50% of the measuring stick. (stats the other 50). Makes the whole thing suspect.

guys like Sey & Wilfork who played their whole career vs a double-team have no stats.
And guys like Rodney who were deliberately probowl snubbed for personality reasons, get it held against them that they have few PBs when he had ONE-OF-A-KIND stats. Rodney should have been 1st round shoe-in.

 

[everlong]

LeRoy Butler and Rodney Harrison are about equally deserving. Maybe Rodney gets the nod because he was part of a dynasty, while Butler's Packers only got over the top once, but they are pretty close. Some serious homeriam going on here,

Rodney was better than Butler and Lynch and on par with Dawkins. He was also much more impactful in the post season and than any of them.

I know Sam Mills was a great guy and is deserving but Zach Thomas should have made it in first. All those first team all pros with a career overlapped by Urlacher, Lewis, Seau....come on. I hated knowing Thomas and Taylor were coming to town, or worse we were going there.

People are upset Ware didn't make it in his first year. Sorry but Chris Doleman was a superior player who was not only a dominant pass rush but he was above average at run defense while doing it. Plus he has more sacks in a less pass happy league. Strahan wasn't a first ballot guy and had similar numbers and again I'd rank him as a better all around defender. Jason Taylor is the most recent first ballot guy who is a comp. Sorry but JT was a freaking game wrecker.

Most of the first ballot guys won a DPOY. Woodson, Taylor, Polamalu, Reed, Lewis...and so on. Suggs and Harrison will be interesting cases. I think they're probably career wise equal players. Suggs has a lot more sacks but Harrison was the more well rounded player and he has a SB play which is in the conversation for the best of all time. Both however have off the field domestic abuse cases against them. Where the league has pretty much always ignore that, will they now? I'm not sure either way.

Major congrats to Sey-93. Much deserved. It was great seeing him on NFLN and the love that Will Mac and him have for each other. Just a terrific moment. You could tell at NFL Honors (saw the clip, didn't watch) that Willie was legit thrilled for his friend. I also thought Bryant Young was borderline at best but I have to say both Willie and Seymour gave him a lot of love and how they watched film on Young to get better. I know a lot of these events are grab ass but it seemed authentic where other times it doesn't.

 

[BobDigital]

I'm glad Seymour made the hall of fame in an era when everyone is so obsessed with stats. Any random fan who never saw him play and looks up his stat sheet will wonder 'how the hell is this guy in the HOF and why did he make so many pro bowls and all pro teams?' It's good to know that on the field performance is still something they look at, though I have a strong feeling that if Seymour didn't play for a 3 time super bowl winner he would likely not be in right now. Which would be very unfortunate. This isn't an argument against him, but a hope that other great players who didn't light up the stat sheet due to roles and what they were asked to do on less successful teams would be considered. Sadly I don't think they will be near as much as they should.

For instance, how in the hell is a guy like Ted Washington still not in the NFL HOF? Dude was a monster. Of course, Wilfork should get in too. There isn't near enough love for the NT position in the HOF. And they don't get honored like they should with pro bowl nods.