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  1. Boston Boxer

    Boston Boxer U.S. Air Force Retired PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Tua will not be a good pro QB. It is a mistake to tank for Tua
     
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    I don’t think I recognize more than 2 or 3 names on the Dorfins roster and those 2-3 aren’t anything to write home about. Am I missing someone?
     
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    But they will have new QB, different chemistry etc.

    With a rookie QB, next year can begin the rebuilding.

    Now Flores will be guaranteed of two losing years before he even gets started.
     
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    Yikes. I don’t think next week will be as bad for Miami as this week just for the simple fact that Coach Flo doesn’t want to get embarrassed by a Belichick. But it’s still going to be a blowout.
     
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    Patstastic Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    I'm still uneasy about next week. Especially after what BB disciples Patricia and Vrabel did last season. And because our team somehow goes into bad mode down there.
     
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    Tank for nobody. Luck was not worth that horrible season and the way it left things with Manning (as much as I cant stand him). On the whole. Luck was a big disappointment despite some flashes.
     
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  7. DropKickFlutie

    DropKickFlutie 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    Some of you gleeful over Flores are sick. This guy was with the Pats for 15 years and recently led the lowest points Defense against ever allowed, in a Superbowl, for us. Also can't blame a guy for making 10x more to take care of his family.

    Strategically, it is sound long term to tank this year and reload with guys who want to be in Miami.

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    RelocatedPatFan Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Contacting their agent? They should reach out to Antonio Brown or Drew Rosenhaus if they want know how to make themselves get kicked out by management.

    It’s like Major League NFL edition
     
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    Flores is a guru?
    I guess Steve Belichick and Mayo have entered the Guru Zone as well

    Regarding keeping Gase one more year...
    Gase won games which clearly is an unacceptable outcome this year.
    Gase would likely publicly vent his disgust with the present roster in order to deflect his shortcomings
    Flores is a willing and controllable participant in this tank and being paid handsomely for his role
     
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    don't expect a huge blowout........BB doesn't do that to his coaching tree
     
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    Agree completely. I think they are committed to Flores and the way to deal with it is to trade as many of those they feel are expendable while they can, and build around some of the young players they drafted the past few years. Flores should sit any of the malcontents for as long as he has to.
     
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    Luck's career trajectory is largely due to him going to a terrible organization.

    Grigson spent most of his draft capital on the defense and left Luck to get hit like a tackling dummy.

    Luck's coaches were more concerned about their careers than his, and they looked the other way when he would try to run for 1st downs and get creamed.

    Any QB needy team would have gladly tanked for Luck.

    Q: Would you have tanked for Bledsoe?
    A: Of course!
     
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    Flores made a mistake in leaving, I know it was a huge opportunity for him and no one wants to pass that up but he doesn't have enough experience for a job like this. A few more years of being a DC with the Pats would have landed him a better situation in the future. He really only took over calling the defensive plays a year ago when Patricia left, he jumped ship too soon.
     
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    I thought it was a bad move by miami,Flores had one years experiance of being a DC. Thats a really thin resume.
     
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    In hindsight it seems like they knew they were tanking so they searched for a coach to take a beating and ultimately the choice was about how do you hurt your rival. The coaches that followed him are the real suckers.
     
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    I wasn't saying Flores is a guru.

    I was saying that Miami was treating him like he was THEIR guru.

    Hiring him with little experience at a young age. Like he was the next Sean McVey.
     
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  18. Patsfanin Philly

    Patsfanin Philly Pro Bowl Player

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    Many 'experts' thought it was neck and neck between Bledsoe and Rick Mirer and both were "sure things"....... We know how that turned out..
    One had 50 TDs for a career, the other 255 and 44,000 passing yards..(15th all time overall)
     
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    Luck has also benefitted from people (media, fans, NFL) pumping him up his entire career and making excuses for him. This is another excuse.

    When you look at his career in a vacuum : he was VG. When you consider the talent/hype vs the playoff failures and INTs, he was not much.

    In the end, too many people want to praise “good players”. The only goal, ultimately, is to win the SB. Luck was propped up to the point everyone was saying “multiple SBs”. In the end, the chien one failed to win the big ones. While talent was not always up to par, his INTs contributed to the lack of championships.
     
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    What’s the address to send my resume? Although I’ve never played tackle football in my life, I’m prepared to be paid the minimum and not afraid of death.
     

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