OT: Packers and Vikings playing to lose??

[JMC00]

Given that it is the SNF game they will know ahead of time

If Seattle losses in Arizona, they get locked in as the #6 seed, which means the winner of Packers/Vikings would be hosting Seattle the next week and the loser would be going to Washington.

Now if Seattle was to win in Arizona-

A Packers win means a rematch between GB/Min in the Wild Card and Seattle plays Washington.

If Minnesota wins then Seattle would travel to Minnesota in the Wild Card round and Green Bay would play Washington.

 

[gitgronked82]

yeah definitely interesting. teams don't seem to be willing to do that, though

 

[jmt57]

At first thought I would agree, but it also means the difference between a home game and playing on the road.

IIRC home teams keep 2/3 of the gate receipts, plus they keep all the profits from concessions, parking, etc.

I'm doubting Zygi Wilf or the Green Bay Packers Board of Directors would be on board with that idea.

 

[Concussion Protocol]

Seattle @ Washington and Minnesota @ GB would give these playoffs a very 2012 feel. No Joe Webb this time tho

 

[convertedpatsfan]

At first thought I would agree, but it also means the difference between a home game and playing on the road.

IIRC home teams keep 2/3 of the gate receipts, plus they keep all the profits from concessions, parking, etc.

I'm doubting Zygi Wilf or the Green Bay Packers Board of Directors would be on board with that idea.

I thought that too, but I've read multiple articles now that all ticket receipts are kept by the league.

NFL Playoffs Are Not A Road To Riches For Teams

The overall NFL financial model is a socialist one. The NFL splits revenues evenly among teams from national media and licensing deals like other sports. But the NFL is the only sport that also doles out an equal portion of gate receipts to each team ($17 million last season).

The NFL’s socialist model continues in the playoffs. Playoff home teams in baseball, basketball and hockey keep anywhere from 50% to 100% of ticket revenues, depending on the sport and the number of games in the series. In football, all gate receipts flow to the league. The New England Patriots generate more than $10 million in gate receipts for each home game, but don’t see a dime of that. Teams get a stipend to cover expenses for each NFL game. Teams also receive money from the NFL to pay players for their participation in the playoffs (contracts only run through the regular season). Each player on last year’s Super Bowl winner, the New York Giants, received a total of $172,000 for four playoff games.​

How it pays to make the NFL Playoffs

Making the playoffs is a great marketing tool, and it helps with things such as future ticket sales, merchandise sales and overall team branding. But as for the game days themselves, NFL teams consider themselves lucky if they break even.

The NFL pays a stipend to every playoff team to cover the expenses of either traveling or hosting a game. And NFL teams get to pocket things like concession sales and parking revenue. But all of the ticket sales go into the league's revenue-sharing pool.

The team doesn't have to pay out all of those game checks that come from the league pool, but the team is responsible for any of the incentives written into player contracts.
​

I was surprised by that. I'm not even sure it's accurate. Does anyone have any more info on this?

 

[Ivan]

I don't believe either of those coaches would play to lose, that is the domain of the Colts.

 

[BTTA]

A Packers win means a rematch between GB/Min in the Wild Card

All those massive brains working on the structure of the playoffs and they can't figure out how to keep two teams, from the same division, from playing two games in a row, on the same field. Heck, why not just get a couple hours rest and play it immediately?

 

[alvinnf]

Given that it is the SNF game they will know ahead of time

If Seattle losses in Arizona, they get locked in as the #6 seed, which means the winner of Packers/Vikings would be hosting Seattle the next week and the loser would be going to Washington.

Now if Seattle was to win in Arizona-

A Packers win means a rematch between GB/Min in the Wild Card and Seattle plays Washington.

If Minnesota wins then Seattle would travel to Minnesota in the Wild Card round and Green Bay would play Washington.

Hmm, I could see GB getting healthy and wanting to play Was. Also, I could Minn going guns a blazing to stay hot. So my Vegas pick is, take Minn.....

 

[jmt57]

I thought that too, but I've read multiple articles now that all ticket receipts are kept by the league.

NFL Playoffs Are Not A Road To Riches For Teams

The overall NFL financial model is a socialist one. The NFL splits revenues evenly among teams from national media and licensing deals like other sports. But the NFL is the only sport that also doles out an equal portion of gate receipts to each team ($17 million last season).

The NFL’s socialist model continues in the playoffs. Playoff home teams in baseball, basketball and hockey keep anywhere from 50% to 100% of ticket revenues, depending on the sport and the number of games in the series. In football, all gate receipts flow to the league. The New England Patriots generate more than $10 million in gate receipts for each home game, but don’t see a dime of that. Teams get a stipend to cover expenses for each NFL game. Teams also receive money from the NFL to pay players for their participation in the playoffs (contracts only run through the regular season). Each player on last year’s Super Bowl winner, the New York Giants, received a total of $172,000 for four playoff games.​

How it pays to make the NFL Playoffs

Making the playoffs is a great marketing tool, and it helps with things such as future ticket sales, merchandise sales and overall team branding. But as for the game days themselves, NFL teams consider themselves lucky if they break even.

The NFL pays a stipend to every playoff team to cover the expenses of either traveling or hosting a game. And NFL teams get to pocket things like concession sales and parking revenue. But all of the ticket sales go into the league's revenue-sharing pool.

The team doesn't have to pay out all of those game checks that come from the league pool, but the team is responsible for any of the incentives written into player contracts.
​

I was surprised by that. I'm not even sure it's accurate. Does anyone have any more info on this?

Interesting.

I am fairly certain that it used to be a 2/3 to 1/3 split. Home teams that wanted to avoid a blackout that would "buy the remaining tickets" were in actuality simply paying the visiting team their 1/3 share of the unsold tickets.

In the 2015 off-season the NFL lifted its television blackout rule for a one-year trial.

NFL suspends its TV blackout rule for 2015 season - CBSSports.com

At first I thought this was a change just for playoff games, but apparently it is a new rule for all games this year. I vaguely remember some talk about in the off-season but didn't realize that it included complete ticket sale revenue sharing.

NFL owners voted 31-1 to end TV blackouts, here's who voted against it

Brown's problem is that he doesn't think the rule that passed with the blackout policy is fair. Under the new rule, homes teams have to split their revenue with away teams based on the revenue generated from selling 85 percent of the home team's tickets.

Generally, the home team gets to keep two-thirds of the revenue, while the away team gets one-third.

However, with the new rule, if a team doesn't sell 85 percent of its tickets, then it has to make up the difference. So if the Bengals sell 75 percent of their tickets to a game, they'd have to get that number up to 85 percent, presumably by purchasing the extra 10 percent of tickets.

. . . . .

Last year (2014), the Bengals were helped by the fact that they took advantage of the NFL's relaxed blackout policy that allowed a team to declare a sellout if it had only sold 85 percent of its seats.

The catch there was that if the Bengals sold between 86 percent to 100 percent of their seats, they had to split their revenue 50-50 with the visiting team. If sales were 85 percent or under, the Bengals got their normal two-thirds home share, but the game would get blacked out on local TV.

If the Bengals don't sell at least 85 percent of their tickets to each home game, it's going to cost them money and Brown doesn't like it.

"I find that discriminatory. I object to it. I think all teams should pay the same visiting teams share."​

So yes, the gate receipt sharing has indeed been radically altered to now being pooled between all 32 teams.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Both teams have struggled against Seattle. (Green Bay did win this year.)
However maybe they would be P_ssed off and play their guts out.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Green Bay is too classy an organization to lay down.

But in the other hand, Green Bay does have a lot of problem areas on that team, so I am not sure if we can tell the difference.

 

[brdmaverick]

Interesting scenarios you present there.

One this is for sure, I'll be rooting for Green Bay this weekend as a football fan I just feel there is something special about a playoff game in Lambeau.

 

[JJDChE]

I think the home game trumps the opponent in nearly every case. Seattle is 4-3 on the road and WAS is 6-2 at home. I think most would agree SEA is better, but WAS is playing well also. Tough call. I think you need to go for the home game even in this case.

 

[VrabelJr]

I think Minnesota will win anyway and they seem to match up quite well against Seattle.

 

[Concussion Protocol]

I think Minnesota will win anyway and they seem to match up quite well against Seattle.

IDK about that, the Seahawks ripped them to shreds a few weeks back

 

[VrabelJr]

IDK about that, the Seahawks ripped them to shreds a few weeks back

I think the Vikings were missing 3-4 starters on defense for that game.

 

[meatface]

I'm thinking both teams owners want that home playoff game. Minn hasn't had one since farve was there

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[italian pat patriot]

nah...

i do not think so...

ps it was nice to see MIN playing outdoors for two years - i love 'open' stadiums'