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OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

Sounds like most healthy adult males who appreciate Brady and rooted for him all those years in NE.

It makes sense that the thread's troll is a 30 something Incel who has never been laid and lives with his parents. Oh, and he used to have the username TommyBrady12 just to top off the perfect loser combination.
@Kontradiction hit the nail in the head describing Porksley & family here. Lmao

Now 13 years of age, Mortimer Porksley, son of Biff and Bambi Porksley, was beginning to come of age. Ever aware of his own circumstances, he has begun to worry incessantly on a day-to-day basis. One early morning, he descended down the stairs from his suite and into his mother’s room.

“Mother?”
“Yes, what is it, Mortimer?”
“I don’t want to go to school today,” Mortimer replied with tears in his eyes.

Bambi Porksley quickly cleaned the dust off the mirror, put down her glass of Dom Perignon, and wiped the tears of her own eyes. She asked Mortimer, “What is it, my special, special boy?”

“The boys at school tease me for not being allowed to play football. They call me “
‘Pork,’ squeeze my breasts together, and threaten to make coitus with them after school,” Mortimer said.
“Oh, dear,” replied Bambi.
“Mother dearest, may I please play football?”
“Now Mortimer, you know how I feel about that dreadful, BRUTISH, sport. Further, you just simply are not athletic. Your father and I did not send you to the Chestershire Auxillary Academy for sports! You are to raise your grades from a C- so you can attend the University of Virginia,” said Bambi with authority.
“Please, mother! I don’t know how much more of this I can take,” yelled Mortimer, tears beginning to run down his ample cheeks.

Bambi, beginning to see through the haze of the pain killers she snorted combined with her 6th glass of champagne before 9:00 AM could clearly tell that her hefty son was in distress. She called for his father, Biff.

“Oh Biff!” called Bambi.
“Yes, my liege?,” replied Biff.
“Do make haste and come to my room, please,” Bambi said.

As Biff arrived to Bambi’s room (they did not share the master suite, and had not made love in several years), Bambi began to tell Biff what Mortimer had shared with her.

“Well, I will not have a son of mine playing sports,” Biff growled. “If he is being bullied, I shall write the headmaster at Chestershire and inform him that thugs are tormenting Mortimer! That shall put an end to this foolishness.”

Unfortunately, that letter from Biff never arrived in time. When Mortimer arrived at school that day, the bullies, led by Lionel Drake, forced Mortimer into the bathroom, quickly overpowered him, and performed various sexual acts on him before dunking his head into an unflushed toilet. Mortimer would never tell anyone that he secretly enjoyed the acts, and closed his eyes to picture his tormentors as the head coach of the New England Patriots - William Belichick.
 
@Kontradiction hit the nail in the head describing Porksley & family here. Lmao

In case you ladies haven't noticed, there is a covid outbreak on the Pats right now...the rest of us are worried, but I doubt you care since it doesn't involve Tommy.
 
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In case you Bucs fans haven't noticed, there is a covid outbreak on the Pats right now...the rest of us are worried, but I doubt you care since it doesn't involve Tommy.
Ian - isn't this against the rules you set? Questioning our fandom?
 
Shouldn't you be doing finishing up your community college classes?

#that really smart guy/that badass dude

They haven't started yet. I have an automotive class and lab set for next semester so I can figure out how to work on my own car/my relatives cars instead of spending thousands of dollars at the mechanics. For some, education is both pragmatic and enjoyable. For you, it's a way to try to make 2.5" appear to be 5".
 
They haven't started yet. I have an automotive class and lab set for next semester so I can figure out how to work on my own car/my relatives cars instead of spending thousands of dollars at the mechanics. For some, education is both pragmatic and enjoyable. For you, it's a way to try to make 2.5" appear to be 5".
That's fantastic. Good for you. I'm trying to teach my kids this concept of education as pragmatic versus getting a degree for the sake of getting a degree.
 
That's fantastic. Good for you. I'm trying to teach my kids this concept of education as pragmatic versus getting a degree for the sake of getting a degree.

Yeah, I'm excited about it.

My grandmother was a really amazing person, so many friends, interests, hobbies, etc. She used to do a community college class every semester from age 40-90. I'd go to her house and she'd have all these books about the subject. Piano, languages, geography, world history, astronomy, knitting, cuisine, etc. People say education is expensive, but there are some great ways out there to save money and still learn a lot. She was comfortable financially and well educated, so this was all just elective continuing education.

My wife was a little skeptical on the idea, so I started off with this course. I figure after I can save us tons of money by not needing minor repairs anymore, she'll really see the value. I suck with automotive stuff, and so does everyone in my family, and I'm sure we get ripped off frequently. Plus, she won't have to deal with me at least one night a week.
 
Yeah, I'm excited about it.

My grandmother was a really amazing person, so many friends, interests, hobbies, etc. She used to do a community college class every semester from age 40-90. I'd go to her house and she'd have all these books about the subject. Piano, languages, geography, world history, astronomy, knitting, cuisine, etc. People say education is expensive, but there are some great ways out there to save money and still learn a lot. She was comfortable financially and well educated, so this was all just elective continuing education.

My wife was a little skeptical on the idea, so I started off with this course. I figure after I can save us tons of money by not needing minor repairs anymore, she'll really see the value. I suck with automotive stuff, and so does everyone in my family, and I'm sure we get ripped off frequently. Plus, she won't have to deal with me at least one night a week.
That's pretty cool. Given how much a degree costs now, especially here in Mass, being more creative about education is key to not only keeping the cost down but also learning information that you can really use in life to not only make money but also better yourself as a person.

I love education but I am officially off of the "must get a degree" train. It really is cost inhibitive to living a productive life.
 
Funny, Brady spent all of last year and this one overcoming injuries to his weapons, yet this one bad game is somehow supposed to be proof of his inability to do just that.

Once again, that's not the point. The onus wasn't on Brady last night, it was an example of the coaching staff not adjusting accordingly once those weapons were sidelined and the OL was uncharacteristically getting slapped around.
 
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Once again, that's not the point. The onus wasn't on Brady last night, it was an example of the coaching staff not adjusting accordingly once those weapons were sidelined and the OL was uncharacteristically getting slapped around.

I don't know, Tunes. I think you're somewhat correct but not entirely correct. I've been following the Bucs closely since Brady got there; I can definitely undersand why someone would think the coaching staff is sub-par, but I think a lot of that is perception. They have a head coach who looks like a pig and who frequently becomes a sound byte; they have a DC who we saw fail with the green sewer rats; and then Leftwich, who just appears to be a young, inexperienced guy.

And I thought for awhile last year, the coaching was indeed pretty bad. But this year, I think they deserve a lot of credit for their gameplans tailored to opponents and their strategy. The games the Bucs have lost have rarely been due to stupid playcalling, at least on offense. And they've built some excellent gameplans around Brady's quick release from within the pocket.

Last night's game in a vacuum looks bad, but I don't think the coaches could do much. First of all, the Bucs have struggled badly against the Saints the last two years. They lost 38-3 even when they had their guys. For whatever reason, Lattimore owns Evans, and their veterans seems to always get in the Bucs head. The Saints defensive line has just dominated the Bucs; look at last night with Wirfs allowing two sacks when he had only allowed one pressure all year.

Now on top of that, losing Evans, Godwin, and Fournette...and not having Brown to begin with, against a team that is already giving you tons of problems. And now throw in that Gronk was 3/11 on targets and dropped a few easy ones. I actually thought the Bucs staff did a pretty good job of getting guys open despite having huge physical disadvantges against the Saints. Obviously they didn't do a great job since they were shut out, but they tended to call the right plays. There was simply not much they could do to create chunk plays with third string players, some of whom aren't even real receivers.
 
I don't know, Tunes. I think you're somewhat correct but not entirely correct. I've been following the Bucs closely since Brady got there; I can definitely undersand why someone would think the coaching staff is sub-par, but I think a lot of that is perception. They have a head coach who looks like a pig and who frequently becomes a sound byte; they have a DC who we saw fail with the green sewer rats; and then Leftwich, who just appears to be a young, inexperienced guy.

And I thought for awhile last year, the coaching was indeed pretty bad. But this year, I think they deserve a lot of credit for their gameplans tailored to opponents and their strategy. The games the Bucs have lost have rarely been due to stupid playcalling, at least on offense. And they've built some excellent gameplans around Brady's quick release from within the pocket.

Last night's game in a vacuum looks bad, but I don't think the coaches could do much. First of all, the Bucs have struggled badly against the Saints the last two years. They lost 38-3 even when they had their guys. For whatever reason, Lattimore owns Evans, and their veterans seems to always get in the Bucs head. The Saints defensive line has just dominated the Bucs; look at last night with Wirfs allowing two sacks when he had only allowed one pressure all year.

Now on top of that, losing Evans, Godwin, and Fournette...and not having Brown to begin with, against a team that is already giving you tons of problems. And now throw in that Gronk was 3/11 on targets and dropped a few easy ones. I actually thought the Bucs staff did a pretty good job of getting guys open despite having huge physical disadvantges against the Saints. Obviously they didn't do a great job since they were shut out, but they tended to call the right plays. There was simply not much they could do to create chunk plays with third string players, some of whom aren't even real receivers.
My take as well. Coaching was not the issue last night, the injuries were as well as the Saints defense playing a really great game.
 
Brady has had to deal with 1 or 2 of his best receiving options going down during a game and usually still won. Gronk a couple times obviously, Cooks, Edelman, but never 3 all at once I don’t think. That’s a tough ask DURING a game when oh boy the way your offensive line which gave up 13 sacks all season now can’t protect you.
 
I don't know, Tunes. I think you're somewhat correct but not entirely correct. I've been following the Bucs closely since Brady got there; I can definitely undersand why someone would think the coaching staff is sub-par, but I think a lot of that is perception. They have a head coach who looks like a pig and who frequently becomes a sound byte; they have a DC who we saw fail with the green sewer rats; and then Leftwich, who just appears to be a young, inexperienced guy.

And I thought for awhile last year, the coaching was indeed pretty bad. But this year, I think they deserve a lot of credit for their gameplans tailored to opponents and their strategy. The games the Bucs have lost have rarely been due to stupid playcalling, at least on offense. And they've built some excellent gameplans around Brady's quick release from within the pocket.

Last night's game in a vacuum looks bad, but I don't think the coaches could do much. First of all, the Bucs have struggled badly against the Saints the last two years. They lost 38-3 even when they had their guys. For whatever reason, Lattimore owns Evans, and their veterans seems to always get in the Bucs head. The Saints defensive line has just dominated the Bucs; look at last night with Wirfs allowing two sacks when he had only allowed one pressure all year.

Now on top of that, losing Evans, Godwin, and Fournette...and not having Brown to begin with, against a team that is already giving you tons of problems. And now throw in that Gronk was 3/11 on targets and dropped a few easy ones. I actually thought the Bucs staff did a pretty good job of getting guys open despite having huge physical disadvantges against the Saints. Obviously they didn't do a great job since they were shut out, but they tended to call the right plays. There was simply not much they could do to create chunk plays with third string players, some of whom aren't even real receivers.

I don't have total recall of everything that occurred after those three were shelved but it seemed the offensive attack should've been tightened up -- especially fewer intermediate/long routes with the OL struggling and top WRs out. Just more "small ball" with Vaughn and the tight ends; they didn't need a lot of points.
 
Once again, that's not the point. The onus wasn't on Brady last night, it was an example of the coaching staff not adjusting accordingly once those weapons were sidelined and the OL was uncharacteristically getting slapped around.
Historically, during the era of full free agency, how many teams "adjust accordingly" on the fly to having lost their top 4 passing targets, including 3 in the very game being played, and where one of the 3 lost targets is also the team's RB1?
 
Historically, during the era of full free agency, how many teams "adjust accordingly" on the fly to having lost their top 4 passing targets, including 3 in the very game being played, and where one of the 3 lost targets is also the team's RB1?

Its probably happened to already bad teams we don’t notice.
 
Wonder if Bucs pursue OBJ in the offseason. We all know for a fact that he’s been dying to play with Brady for years and if the Rams don’t win the Super Bowl this year he’ll still be ring chasing. I don’t mean as a Godwin replacement but as an AB replacement. OBJ is just 29 and is proving to still be good. AB will be 35.
 
Historically, during the era of full free agency, how many teams "adjust accordingly" on the fly to having lost their top 4 passing targets, including 3 in the very game being played?

All the teams that lost their top four passing targets, including three in the very game being played.
 
All the teams that lost their top four passing targets, including three in the very game being played.

There are a lot of examples where DURING THE GAME the 3 top targets were knocked out with injuries? Not across a season, not during the week. During the game. There IS a difference.
 
Edelman actually never made the Pro Bowl

And technically Gronk is a TE
Wonder if Bucs pursue OBJ in the offseason. We all know for a fact that he’s been dying to play with Brady for years and if the Rams don’t win the Super Bowl this year he’ll still be ring chasing. I don’t mean as a Godwin replacement but as an AB replacement. OBJ is just 29 and is proving to still be good. AB will be 35.
Bucs pursued obj this year , he choose the rams so he could be in LA and get paid (and pood’ on prob)
 

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