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Brady must be on a cloud 9 literally. Tampa is all in on him.
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I kept a list of the top ten clutch QBs by SI, NFLN, Bleacher Report and NFL Films from the time you're talking about.I think if you're making an all-time rankings list, it defeats the purpose to put five guys from the last ten years. Ten years from today, your list will look entirely different.
If you find a list of All-Time Top 10s from the year 2000, like the chart being discussed now, it will probably have in the top 10: Farve, Montana, Young, Elway, and Marino for starters and some might also include Aikman, Fouts, Kelly, or Moon on the back end.
I think if you're making an All-Time list, it should age pretty well. 10 years later, maybe one or two slots are changed; maybe there's one new player. But putting Brees, Rodgers, Brady, and Manning on a list that's supposed to span 100 years is tunnel vision.
Passing stats are a very flawed measure...they might help to sort within an era only; the average QB rating now is Joe Montana's career's QB rating, which was best all-time when he retired. Championships, MVPs, All-Pro, outlier stats, legendary moments/games...I think those are all important factors.
I tried to make some changes but I had so many that it became confusing, so I had to create a spreadsheet to keep track. The fact that Vick and Stafford were even mentioned was comical.Sorry, but that pyramid is terrible
People making these lists need to avoid the "All time" part, and just go from the Super Bowl era. They screw up plenty even just with the recent QBs.I tried to make some changes but I had so many that it became confusing, so I had to create a spreadsheet to keep track. The fact that Vick and Stafford were even mentioned was comical.
Imagine keeping him longer is the goal, but right now it's to help with the cap situation to keep the band together.
I've been trying very hard to be happy for Brady but I keep getting more frustrated instead. Bob did a very stupid thing when he let Brady get away. In the end Brady could end up lasting longer than Bill.Brady must be on a cloud 9 literally. Tampa is all in on him.
They also somehow ranked Eli Manning in the HOF tier. While putting Kurt Warner in the lower Franchise Great tier. Despite Kurt Warner literally being in the HOF.People making these lists need to avoid the "All time" part, and just go from the Super Bowl era. They screw up plenty even just with the recent QBs.
And the Vick and Stafford selections make this particular "list" laughable.
People making these lists need to avoid the "All time" part, and just go from the Super Bowl era. They screw up plenty even just with the recent QBs.
And the Vick and Stafford selections make this particular "list" laughable.
I think that only having the 9 in the "top 10" categories was to keep the pyramid balanced. It's just another example of how badly done that "list" is.They also somehow ranked Eli Manning in the HOF tier. While putting Kurt Warner in the lower Franchise Great tier. Despite Kurt Warner literally being in the HOF.
They also have only 9 players in the top 10(or better) categories . Saving a spot for Mahomes already?
The problem for an older person like myself is that I've seen Unitas play and he's far better than he gets credited with being. The only QBs from the list that I didn't see play, or don't remember, are Graham, Baugh and Luckman.People making these lists need to avoid the "All time" part, and just go from the Super Bowl era. They screw up plenty even just with the recent QBs.
And the Vick and Stafford selections make this particular "list" laughable.
I almost took Eli off the list entirely. I was also going to move Tarkenton down two levels instead of one to make room for Warner to move up one level. I still may do that.They also somehow ranked Eli Manning in the HOF tier. While putting Kurt Warner in the lower Franchise Great tier. Despite Kurt Warner literally being in the HOF.
They also have only 9 players in the top 10(or better) categories . Saving a spot for Mahomes already?
That pyramid has too much recency bias, but Marino's not a top 8 QB. I know this gets us into dead horse territory, but the top 8 QBs are locked in:The problem for an older person like myself is that I've seen Unitas play and he's far better than he gets credited with being. The only QBs from the list that I didn't see play, or don't remember, are Graham, Baugh and Luckman.
There's also the SB ring factor that comes into play. I don't care how many rings some of those guys have, there's no way that many of them are as good as Marino, who never won a title. He was that good.
Someone tell me what this guy do before he came to the bucs? Also his numbers went down after a great 2019. I keep saying he’s a product of the bucs defensive front especially vea. I wouldn’t give him 17 million dollars.
Eli is Joe Flacco, but with two playoff runs instead of one. They even have (to this point at least) identical 84.1 QB ratings.I almost took Eli off the list entirely. I was also going to move Tarkenton down two levels instead of one to make room for Warner to move up one level. I still may do that.
You’re always bringing up the denver situation why does it matter he was a backup than and got better now. Yes Vea helps him with Vea he’s an all world rusher without him he’s still a top 10 rusher. Well the good news for Tampa is Vea will be there for life so why not have the line set for 4-5 years with both.
On Otto Graham.That pyramid has too much recency bias, but Marino's not a top 8 QB. I know this gets us into dead horse territory, but the top 8 QBs are locked in:
Brady
Starr
Montana
Baugh
Graham
Unitas
Staubach
Young
CHFF got that group right (though Brady's obviously passed those that had been rated ahead of him back in 2008, and there are arguments to be made about the slotting of individuals in the 8 because of the changing nature of the game pre-SB era). The debate starts after that, IMO, with a group of players all in a slot fight starting at 9.
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Bruce Arians says it should be "somewhere around June" before Tom Brady is able to fully practice after his knee surgery. Says Brady doesn't need to throw, can just "coach the **** out of" his teammates in offseason.
Brees has the gaudy passing stats. Rodgers hasn't played long enough yet but he'll probably pass him. Saw in NFL 2020 Mic'd up video how Rodgers ran to Adams after throwing his 400 TD and told him that was his 400 td, lol. He kept talking about it in the sidelines. Guy is all about his stats.