On the Colts balls

[lurker1965]

Maybe we should ask the Colts why there balls defied the laws of physics?

My theory is they used unobtainium from planet X where the laws of nature are merely suggestions, but I'm sure the Colts have better answers than me on that.

 

[Dr Pain]

NFL has never commented on the Colts balls, were they measured pre game and at the half? If so what were the measures? Also where were they inflated. Again this is a rumor and NFL has not said it at all.

 

[lurker1965]

NFL has never commented on the Colts balls, were they measured pre game and at the half? If so what were the measures? Also where were they inflated. Again this is a rumor and NFL has not said it at all.

That, and assuming it is true (or true-ish) icy Patriot has a good theory - with better evidence than most anti-Patriots articles I saw this week.

 

[juxtapoz15]

The better question to ask is how long after being brought inside did they check the pats and colts ball? If they checked the Pats immediately after bringing them in the would never have had time to get back to inside room temperature and would still be underweight. Now if the Colts balls were given 10 minutes to adjust back to room temp that would explain why the were at the rate as before.
Now the stupidest thing the league did was to reinflate the Pats balls, effectively destroying all evidence.

 

[kennyb]

If the Colts balls were colder at first pressure check then they'd lose less pressure. However the nfl I don't believe said how much pressure they lost if any.

The Colts balls may have been colder because they just came in on a bus and were already filled to lucks specifications. It would probably take a few hours being indoors to heat the ball sufficiently for it to become 72 degrees or so.

Pats balls would quickly lose heat in the rain. Water sucks heat out of things much faster than air.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

There's no evidence they had any

 

[JJP]

One thing that is missing I believe is that BB pointed out that their conditioning of footballs on average (and he said many footballs in the simulations) increased PSI by 1 pound. Differences between the "controlled environment" where the Pats filled the footballs and field conditions would have accounted for another 1 to 1.5 PSI (as we can easily demonstrate given the difference between 70 degrees and 45 to 50 degrees on the field). I think BB was saying that you take the 1 to 1.5 PSI loss from controlled environment to field conditions, add the 1 that artificially increases PSI due to conditioning (which should also dissipate over time), and you get to 2-2.5 PSI loss without ever circumventing the official NFL rules.

The Colts balls may have been colder to begin with (after all they were the visiting team arriving earlier that same day, and who knows where their footballs were stored the very cold night before), and maybe Luck likes his balls hard to begin with, giving the Colts' footballs greater range to deflate. So this "Colts footballs" issue is really a non-issue. The fact that BB came out with such force, really like we've never seen him before, tells me all I need to know.

Harbaaaaaaawwwwwwwww and his buddy Chucky P. concocted this nonsense. I can't wait to see all the hater apologists backtrack next week. Whereas we all suffered mightily as diehard fans last week because we had to deal with the Fellategate nonsense, the coming week will be all the sweeter. And our team will come out on Super Bowl Sunday like Patton's Third Army!!! GO PATS!!!!!

 

[zipster9]

That's the million dollar question.

If the Colts footballs were in regulation at half-time and after the game, why is this different than the Patriots footballs?

I hope the NFL can give us the exact chronological order of the movement of the Colts footballs.

 

[SVN]

Dan Wetzel @DanWetzel · 36m36 minutes ago
Belichick clearly theorized why NE footballs would measure different than Indy. You can disagree, but baffled why people say not addressed

 

[Sfpat]

I posted this in another thread, but the explanation is simple

The NFL stated that the Colts balls were acceptable when inspected pregame and within limits when measured at halftime and after the game. See the difference. The league has never stated that the pressure was measured pregame. If the Colts balls were say 14.5 psi pregame they would be within limits when measured at halftime and after the game.

 

[stinebot]

That's the million dollar question.

If the Colts footballs were in regulation at half-time and after the game, why is this different than the Patriots footballs?

I hope the NFL can give us the exact chronological order of the movement of the Colts footballs.

Maybe the Colts overinflated their balls before the game. All we heard was they were within specifications, but if they were at 13.5psi at the half and 12.5psi at the end of the game it would stand to reason that they were over 13.5psi at the start of the game. But that info will never ever be released. Because we can't have the Colts looking bad, now can we? Of course, they were probably never measured beyond the ref picking one or two up and saying "yeah, that's fine". So there is no definite pre-game reading. But I'd love to know the exact numerical psi measured at the half and again at the end of the game of Colts balls, not just "within specs".

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

I posted this in another thread, but the explanation is simple

The NFL stated that the Colts balls were acceptable when inspected pregame and within limits when measured at halftime and after the game. See the difference. The league has never stated that the pressure was measured pregame. If the Colts balls were say 14.5 psi pregame they would be within limits when measured at halftime and after the game.

The colts probably prepped their balls before they got on the plane. The Pats just before inspection. Add in possible different starting pressures and there's really no mystery left IMO.

 

[Gronkowski123]

There's no evidence they had any

luck is the luckiest person on earth..
he led his team to 7 points. i look forward to the pats kicking his ass again next year.

run up the score!

 

[Horace's Ivories]

hows about asking Luck directly - what PSI do you prefer? - he should know... and go from there..

 

[AQPE]

If the Colts knew the scrutiny was coming they would know how to prepare their footballs for it, regardless of whether and when they were actually measured. I suspect we will not be told the truth by the league about whether the Colts knew it was coming.

 

[Jewber]

Colts probably had their balls in front of heaters just like the Panthers and Vikings were caught doing.

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

I posted this in another thread, but the explanation is simple

The NFL stated that the Colts balls were acceptable when inspected pregame and within limits when measured at halftime and after the game. See the difference. The league has never stated that the pressure was measured pregame. If the Colts balls were say 14.5 psi pregame they would be within limits when measured at halftime and after the game.

Where was that stated? I didn't see that NFL statement

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Colts don't rub their balls, because as we saw Sunday, THEY HAVE NO BALLS!

 

[Sfpat]

Where was that stated? I didn't see that NFL statement

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england...6987/nfls-statement-on-patriots-investigation

NFL statement states that they "inspected" the balls before the game. Elsewhere (and I can't find a link at this moment) it's been stated that the NFL "measured" the balls at halftime and after the game

 

[RobertWeathers]

Colts probably had their balls in front of heaters just like the Panthers and Vikings were caught doing.

I really want an explanation on how the Colts balls were to stay in compliance and the Pats were unable to.

#tablesturned