PostGame Thread OFFICIAL Postgame Thread: Patriots lose 20-10 to the Commanders

[Triumph]

8 wins after what you just witnessed?

8 wins is best case scenario.

The whole NFL season is ahead and there will be surprises.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Outside influence will play a role on who is the QB.

Kraft wants butts in the seats and a full stadium. Krafts wants to look right on selecting Maye and Mayo. It's far more acceptable losing with Maye than Brisset. Fans realize that Maye is a rookie and learning the NFL game. Brisett losing will only raise questions why Maye isn't starting.

I'd rather see Maye good or bad because he needs 3 full seasons to evaluate whether the Pats keep him or move on.

And what will you say if Maye is seriously injured behind this train wreck of an OL? That's football? He failed his trial by fire? Curious: did you want the Pats to draft Maye?

 

[Triumph]

And what will you say if Maye is seriously injured behind this train wreck of an OL? That's football? He failed his trial by fire? Curious: did you want the Pats to draft Maye?

Do you wear a mask driving alone in your car?

If Maye can't handle being hit ot tackled then it's already over. No QB is unscathed. It's not basketball.

 

[borg]

IF Mayo takes the approach the Great BB does "Play the Players who gives you the best chance to win." And that's Drake Maye.

Brissett lasted 4 minutes 7 seconds last night behind NE's line

#PrayForMaye

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Outside influence will play a role on who is the QB.

This is a good point, but see below.

Kraft wants butts in the seats and a full stadium. Krafts wants to look right on selecting Maye and Mayo. It's far more acceptable losing with Maye than Brisset. Fans realize that Maye is a rookie and learning the NFL game. Brisett losing will only raise questions why Maye isn't starting.

Will Kraft play the long game or the short game? That's what it comes down to. Certainly Maye is likely to put butts in the seats early in the season, but the risks are serious injury to the franchise QB, instilling bad habits in and perhaps ruining a very young QB (turtle under pressure, form breakdowns because he's always rushing, screwing with his confidence, etc.), and sucking in future years by having to draft more QBs early and not OLs or positions of need at the top of the draft. Years of futility will put even fewer butts in the seats. Nah, Kraft will play the long game, if he's smart.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

That’s a very weird statement to make. Mayo has been anti Bill since taking over.

It sounds anti wolf even lol goes completely against what wolf said about the OL( which i always thought he was posturing with that comment but at the least the hc should be going along with it in the media) . Mayo is a work in progress haha

 

[jlu52]

The oldest saying in football is that the game is won or lost in the trenches. It remains true, it's just that the game has evolved over the years, with the NFL putting more of a priority on the passing game than the heavy rushing attacks of the past.

What you say is true, the game is won or lost in the trenches. Imo, though, the trench game has devolved, blocking and tackling have never been worse. Not enough practice anymore, and what we see on Sundays are multi-whiffs on both sides of the line.

 

[mikey m]

WTF makes Maye so special that he should be babied all year while we are forced to watch some sucker running for his life?

Easy, he's a rookie with special talent.

Find out what we have in Maye. Odds are against him being a savior. Find out so we know what we have before we pick 1st overall next year.

Even with a mediocre OL (which we don't have), it often takes two years to know what you have in a rookie QB. Having a high school level OL makes it almost futile to even try to evaluate.
But we could find out he is the savior only to see him go the way of Andrew Luck.
Either way, we better be drafting OT, OT next year regardless of whether Maye doesn't play at all, plays amazingly, or plays poorly.

 

[Ross12]

That’s a very weird statement to make. Mayo has been anti Bill since taking over.

Don't think it's that weird. Light a fire under your guys' butts a little bit? Seems like this speaks to Okorafor more than anyone...

 

[Jim Beankie]

I think a lot of it is the oline musical chairs. You can't expect someone to be competent at a position if more than half his practice snaps are at other positions. Flexibility and trying to find the right combo is one thing, what we saw all through camp was bordering on madness. Coming out of the last preseason game with 4 oline positions that can be shuffled any which way is not normal.

At least now they'll be sticking to something that the big guys can settle into.

Gotta bring up the classic:

 

[KCSVEN]

Brissett lasted 4 minutes 7 seconds last night behind NE's line

Not sure how that's the line's fault, it is either play design or Brissett's fault. The end is pretty wide the play calls for the left guard to come all the way across the formation to block the free rusher, Jacoby should have seen that was not possible and either audibled the RB to not fake and to block or he should have rolled left and back. Compare that to Maye in the Eagles game, same concept, completely unblocked rusher, Maye runs back away and drops ball in for the TE screen.

Jacoby never looks there, knowing that should be a free rusher in most scenarios, can't blame the line, it's either the play design or Jacoby, considering Maye had a similar play the week before and was able to avoid the free rusher I'd lean toward the QB that has a history of bad QB play.

FYI, TE was held and not called, if he was able to get loose, they had 2 blockers and 1 defender on that side of the ball, in that way the play design was great.

 

[raduray]

Except it wasn't our starting OL.

Andrews didn't play.

Neither did our starting LT.

And our starting RT was lined up on the Left.

You're right. My bad.

 

[Jim Beankie]

8 wins after what you just witnessed?

It's the new 20-0.

 

[maust]

I'm starting to think it's not the OL players, per se. Peters is the Fifth F'ing OLine coach in 5 years. There's no consistency to build upon concepts from year to year since Dante left, although CPop and CBric had sortof worked in the OL system before they took over, which is probably why they weren't gang-green-terrible in 2020 and 2021.

There were moments during all the preseason games, but they were all against backups. I award them no points, and my God have mercy on their souls.

NGL, it has been distressing watching the line go from bad to worse to worst over the course of the preseason games but there's no need to choose between the players, coaches or front office. When it comes to assessing the fault for the putrid excuse for O-line play we saw last night there's more than enough blame pie for all of them. That was horrific but improvement there shouldn't be too difficut. Just having Andrews in the lineup will be a substantial step forward. In addition to getting healthier, there should be cut down deals and/or waiver claims to be had. Some of which should result in the guys we have moving back to positions they're better suited to. None of that will turn this line into something to make us forget the '78 line or necessarily fix the O-line woes long term but could reasonably be hoped to nudge the needle away from being pegged at ****show towards the general direction of serviceable.

It shouldn't surprise anyone to see some deals get made ahead of the deadline. A the very least I'd expect Wolf won't be getting much sleep in the next 30 or so hours.

 

[sb1]

Sure why not. Mayo playing 5D chess baby

 

[Ross12]

Sure why not. Mayo playing 5D chess baby

I think he profiles more as a tackle than a center, but either way they really don't need another guard as badly as they need the other two spots.

Something funny about the idea of our QB sticking his hands under the butt of "Strange 69" for the long term, I do admit.

 

[PatsFan2]

Gotta bring up the classic:

Ewwwwwww.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Brissett lasted 4 minutes 7 seconds last night behind NE's line

#PrayForMaye

Luckily it was against backups. I had flashbacks to Hoyer.

Rashan Gary takes down Hoyer for third-down sack | Packers vs. Patriots

www.packers.com

 

[Jim Beankie]

Ewwwwwww.

It's almost like Illegal Touching.

 

[PatsFan2]

It's almost like Illegal Touching.

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