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2005 was actually a good/very good Draft. Mankins, Hobbs, Kazcur, Sanders and Cassell.
2008 didn't suck either. Mayo and Slater.
2013 didn't suck. Collins, Ryan,Harmon.
2014 didn't suck. Garrapolo, Stork, White, Fleming.
2015 didn't suck. Brown, Flowers, Mason, Cardona

This is like when you tried to claim the Patriots didn't suck at drafting WR and also claimed Harry was good.

Replying so I'll remember you just typed the above

2005 burned a lot of picks, why are you listing mostly backups as a good draft.
2008 Mayo had to be taken with a top10 pick, then nothing else till Slater? Hmmm..
None of the guys you just mentioned from 2013-2015 were very good.
And why did you have zero mention of anyone after 2015 :rofl:

Wow it's even worse than I remembered. Thanks for clarifying the Pats SUCKED at drafting from 2005-2008 and 2013-2019 when multiple john carroll morons were with the Pats.

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Didn't SB1 say Mac is bottom-half in passing yards and passer rating? Did he just make that up?

He might be right...I don't know if NFL.com has updated the stats from the late afternoon games. But Mac is ahead of Rodgers and WIlson in yards, I know that.
 
Mac is 3rd in the league in completions and 13th in passing yards (higher than Rodgers or Wilson). He's performed beyond expectations.
I 100% agree. Mac Jones has been our best offensive player. His QB rating would be a lot higher if the play calling allowed him more opportunity to throw in the red one.
 
So, you have Wynn moving inside to guard where he's never played at the Professional level..

Cajuste played most of the game at RT, not LT. So why are you moving him to LT?

I am a layman poster on a fan forum who asked, "how does the OL look when Wynn, Mason, & Onwenu are healthy?"

I put a question mark at the end of that question and then threw out three speculative lineups with question marks at the end of each.

I do not know who will be starting when they are all healthy - that's why I asked, and that's the very purpose of this forum: to speculate and exchange ideas about how the team will perform/prepare, etc.

Admittedly I didn't realize Cajuste was playing at RT today, that is my bad and thanks for the heads-up. I thought he was at LT. With that in mind, I assume Cajuste stays out right until Trent Brown is healthy, and if/when Brown is ready to go, he'll slot in for either Wynn or Cajuste, whoever is not playing as well (or, if they're both playing well by the time Brown is ready to go, maybe Brown sits and is a swing-tackle off the bench, but he has too much talent to sit if he's healthy, IMO).

My inclination would be to stick with the original starting lineup but with Cajuste at RT: Wynn-Onwenu-Andrews-Mason-Cajuste, and go from there. Hopefully they play well together, but I'd imagine they'll be quicker to pull the plug and rotate guys if they start struggling, given that the OL play didn't see a significant drop-off today despite missing those 4 starters.
 
Jones has no deep ball. Only can make throws when the receiver is wide open. They have got to work on this with him.
Receiver has to get open and the line has to block to complete DEEP passes. Jones has a quick release (which is a GOOD thing), BUT he’s had to release it faster than normal due to the bad Oline.

He doesn’t have a cannon, but he does have a good arm. There plenty of evidence that he throws an excellent deep ball.
 
Has anyone complaining about Mac Jones watched any of the other rookies this year? He's arguably playing the best of all of them.

Fields and Lance barely look like NFL players yet
 
The overreaction each week is intense.
We played within an inch of beating Brady & the champs, and we have major morale victories.
Then pull out a nail biter win against a bottom dweller, and the sky is falling.

The fact is proven - the NFL is a week to week league. It doesn't matter that the Texans record isn't good.
To go on the road and win is worth a lot. Our team took some steps today. Backup OL proving everyone wrong.
A bad 1st half D recovering. Another show of offensive progress in the passing game.
And mostly, overcoming turnovers and a big deficit to fight back.
I'm going to bed happy!
 
You argue that the patriots should have traded Gilmore, our best defensive player 2 years ago, with 2 years left on his contract, to “get something” for him. Then argue the Patriots should have never traded Sony with 1 year left on his contract our 2nd or perhaps 3rd best rb and they got something for him.
You are mixing me u with someone else. I was opposed to trading Gilmore.
 
I am a layman poster on a fan forum who asked, "how does the OL look when Wynn, Mason, & Onwenu are healthy?"

I put a question mark at the end of that question and then threw out three speculative lineups with question marks at the end of each.

I do not know who will be starting when they are all healthy - that's why I asked, and that's the very purpose of this forum: to speculate and exchange ideas about how the team will perform/prepare, etc.

Admittedly I didn't realize Cajuste was playing at RT today, that is my bad and thanks for the heads-up. I thought he was at LT. With that in mind, I assume Cajuste stays out right until Trent Brown is healthy, and if/when Brown is ready to go, he'll slot in for either Wynn or Cajuste, whoever is not playing as well (or, if they're both playing well by the time Brown is ready to go, maybe Brown sits and is a swing-tackle off the bench, but he has too much talent to sit if he's healthy, IMO).

My inclination would be to stick with the original starting lineup but with Cajuste at RT: Wynn-Onwenu-Andrews-Mason-Cajuste, and go from there. Hopefully they play well together, but I'd imagine they'll be quicker to pull the plug and rotate guys if they start struggling, given that the OL play didn't see a significant drop-off today despite missing those 4 starters.
Maybe you should send a PM to someone about him.
 
Except that the Pats didn't suck at drafting from 2005-2008 and from 2013-2019. That's your f'in stupidity talking. Especially since I didn't say Reese ONLY did contracts. I said he PRIMARILY did contracts. And that's a known FACT.

2005 was actually a good/very good Draft. Mankins, Hobbs, Kazcur, Sanders and Cassell.
2008 didn't suck either. Mayo and Slater.
2013 didn't suck. Collins, Ryan,Harmon.
2014 didn't suck. Garrapolo, Stork, White, Fleming.
2015 didn't suck. Brown, Flowers, Mason, Cardona

The problem here is that your ability to evaluate what is and isn't a good draft is non-existent.

Please show me your FACTUAL evidence that supports your claim that O'brien was responsible for the drafting of Gronk, Edelman and Hernandez.
Please show me your FACTUAL evidence that supports your claim that Reese was responsible for drafting Hightower, Jones, DMac, etc.

You have this ridiculous habit of thinking that correlation = causation. And it's just no where close to being true.
So they didn’t suck at drafting 6 years ago?

The Patriots drafted Harry and Williams in 2019 and the only time either one make NFL caliber plays is when they practice against each other.

I am a fan of the Patriots just like you, but that doesn't mean I am going to ignore their poor personnel decision.
 
You are new here so I will fill you in. This is called patsfans.com but for the most part it’s patshaters.com and the norm is to trash the team, coaches and players
Ignore posters with posts that are 95% negative. Filters out the haters and the feed is rather enjoyable.
 
I 100% agree. Mac Jones has been our best offensive player. His QB rating would be a lot higher if the play calling allowed him more opportunity to throw in the red one.
Not sure on that one. He has thrown down there as much as most. I doubt the pats are trying to not score in the redzone.
 
So, you have Wynn moving inside to guard where he's never played at the Professional level..

Cajuste played most of the game at RT, not LT. So why are you moving him to LT?
Wynn started at LT last season in one game - I think against the Broncos.
 

He might be right...I don't know if NFL.com has updated the stats from the late afternoon games. But Mac is ahead of Rodgers and WIlson in yards, I know that.

Well to be fair to Wilson he missed like a half because of his injury but yes Mac is ahead Rodgers in yards and completion %
 
Not sure on that one. He has thrown down there as much as most. I doubt the pats are trying to not score in the redzone.
Obviously they’re not, not trying to score but their red zone play calling has been very conservative.
 
Didn't SB1 say Mac is bottom-half in passing yards and passer rating? Did he just make that up?
Nope. I got that from PFR. Was true going into this week.
 
I love replying to the most obtuse person on the forum.

Play by play:

3rd quarter 3:54. Ball on the 16 yard line, Agholar -1, Bolden 3 yards, Bourne 4 yards. Field Goal.

Just one example.

Sorry that you're still sore, andyjohnson, that I'm letting people never forget you were repeatedly claiming Malcolm Butler did drugs before the Superbowl.


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Yes they threw 3 passes they were not 3 screen passes.

And you are lying about that too. EVERY SINGLE TIME you post it I tell you it is a lie and EVERY SINGLE TIME you post it you cannot find a single post by me saying that.
You're a liar. You know you are a liar, and you keep repeating the same lies over and over and over
 


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