Game Day Thread Official Post Game Thread- Pats beat the Browns

[Vindicate]

Well he was once the greatest defensive mind of all time in his prime. He’s still probably the best in the league as a defensive coach

Definitely, but to do it as an HC/GM during probably the most difficult stretch of his career, keeping his defense motivated when it's normally the offense not holding up their half, keeping the secondary consistent with #1 CB departures of Gilmore, then Jackson, etc. - it's just a really impressive accomplishment when considering all the other noise of keeping up as an HC/GM

 

[bresna]

Oh Isaiah...

 

[archstanton543]

Oh Isaiah...

Worth every penny of that 10 mil.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

Zappe beats Det and the Browns and of course many reactionary fans think Zappe is a better QB than Jones.
Sure, he looks good with no pressure and open receivers, but most any QB would. Not to add playing with the lead, which helps immensely.

Why were we behind in the miami game?

 

[TommyD4207]

it was an INT.

Did the Pats get better field position on the subsequent punt?

They did, yes, I'm pretty sure that's why they didn't challenge. It was basically an arm punt from Brissett.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Worth every penny of that 10 mil.

Pass blocking grade 5. How is that even possible? Lol.

 

[Toofy]

Aren’t we still waiting to see that from Mac Jones as well?

Exactly . Leave apart Texans haven't seen Mac come from behind and lead us to a win.

 

[PatsFan2]

That would have been a nice Corner Route drop it between the CB and Safety shading the outsides.

 

[Real fan 02]

I said before the Pats have improved and Zappe is benefitting from it. He's also contributing to it. Mac should also benefit from it. If he doesn't then what comes next will be a decision Bill has to make.

All I know is Mac will be hungry, wants to solidify his spot as starting QB, this is fun! Having 2 capable starting qbs, the team has knocked the draft out the part last few seasons.. I'm sure the team wants Mac back close to 100% as can be..

Chicago and jets have some of the tougher d lines in the league.. I'm curious to see though how zappe would fare against the vikings, Cincinnati, those offensive powers..

 

[Betterthanmost]

This idea, the Mac 50-50 ball offense, and the new simpler, vanilla Zappe offense argumente keep coming up. I honestly don't understand them. So, with Mac, Patricia/BB were running a more complicated offense that resulted in less open receivers with the goal of throwing aggressive 50-50 balls down the field? But with Zappe, they've decided to go with the simple offense that creates wide open receivers?
I'm seriously open to hearing a better explanation of this, but the easier reasoning for a simpleton like myself is, dare I say it.. improved qb play.

There are many examples in the first three games where players were wide open and Mac was not seeing them. Is he a robot and are the patriots treating him as such? Find the open guy vice turning the damn football over. I will find clips and post to show that players were getting open the first three games. When did BB decide to go for style points vice just win?

 

[Real fan 02]

All I know is Mac will be hungry, wants to solidify his spot as starting QB, this is fun! Having 2 capable starting qbs, the team has knocked the draft out the part last few seasons.. I'm sure the team wants Mac back close to 100% as can be..

Chicago and jets have some of the tougher d lines in the league.. I'm curious to see though how zappe would fare against the vikings, Cincinnati, those offensive powers..

There are many examples in the first three games where players were wide open and Mac was not seeing them. Is he a robot and are the patriots treating him as such? Find the open guy vice turning the damn football over. I will find clips and post to show that players were getting open the first three games. When did BB decide to go for style points vice just win?

I also wanted to mention, Jack Jones, boy! This kidd has it. He has the attitude, confidence the swagger to play corner at this level.. I can't wait to see him on steph Diggs, chase, Higgins..

I know one thing qbs are showing him respect.. this kid is a budding star..

 

[Jim Beankie]

I think that's Greedy Williams (26?) on him. Dude is not slow (10.9 100m in HS, 4.37 40, 1.51 10yd), and TT just dusted him.

 

[ALP]

are there any tackles we can trade for? replace Wynn with a trade, and we gotta draft an LT next year, Brown can't go anymore at a high level it seems

 

[DaBruinz]

If history is a guide, BB held on to JG till the last second and pretty much gave him away to the 9ers.

Shouldn't be counting the chickens before they hatch...

Not counting anything. Where did you even come up with that? I was listing teams who could be looking for QBs next year. Nothing more.

 

[DaBruinz]

are there any tackles we can trade for? replace Wynn with a trade, and we gotta draft an LT next year, Brown can't go anymore at a high level it seems

Only have to draft a LT if they don't bump Strange out there. Strange is the same height/weight as Matt Light but is more Athletic.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

People complain about Strange... lmfao

 

[DaBruinz]

A lot of it depends on who is in there. Peters came back against us, while Denzel Ward went out. We have too few samples to judge. This is going to be a long term process. Mac did not look good early this year, but he looked good last year. This means it's too early to judge.

DCs figured out how to get to Mac end of last year. Flood the zones because so many of the routes were short. You see how the Browns went at Zappe's Patriots. 8 in the box. They didn't believe Zappe could throw on them. He proved them wrong.

Teams are not going to make that mistake again. They'll have to be more honest against the run.

This only helps Stevenson, Strong, and the Harris "Irish" Twins going forward..

 

[DaBruinz]

People complain about Strange... lmfao

Who is complaining about Strange?

 

[DaBruinz]

The first guy didn't actually recover the ball. It was the second guy who came around and came in from the backside (and from out of bounds). It was pretty clear.

The first guy DID recover the ball, but only after the 2nd guy touched it with his hand while he was out of bounds.

 

[venecol]

Oh Isaiah...

Not sure I'm buying those run blocking grades when they show Zappe better than Strange. Lol