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Winning 38-15 is not ugly.
It’s all a matter of perspective. This could be Pape’s first season watching since week 17 of 2007-08.
 
Before people run Mac out of town on a rail, I want them to think about the Chargers giving up on Drew Brees too quickly in favor of a pouter. Bailey ain't no pouter. I want to see this competition play out. I don't care if they're both on the roster for the next 3 years.
Play both their rookie deals almost alll the way out and don't part with either without a lot of draft capital in return. I love having both these guys on payroll so cheap.
You got Indy too since they seem to refuse to draft a QB of the future. But it would be funny if Zappe or Mac ended up in Tampa.
And won 3 rings there. effin hilarious
 
Tampa Bay will need a QB. They might find one with experience being TB12’s successor very attractive.
Carolina and Atlanta… **** the entire NFC South.
 
Mac has been poor this year so perhaps not fair to compare his worst performances with just two of Zappe but Zappe has a calmness to him that i think rubs off on the rest of the team whereas Mac is quite jumpy and the same thing happens. One proviso is that Zappe has done this against two pretty sub par defenses. I almost wish Mac was out for longer as i think Zappe deserves more time to prove if he can be the guy but i'm pretty sure Mac will start as soon as he is fit. One thing though if Mac starts to struggle Bill knows he has a viable credible alternative which you couldn't say before.
 
Not to nitpick but is Jake Bailey losing leg strength? He ranks 30th out of 31 for distance and some of his kickoffs don't reach the end zone.
 
Not to nitpick but is Jake Bailey losing leg strength? He ranks 30th out of 31 for distance and some of his kickoffs don't reach the end zone.
He seemed to get hurt on a tackle a few weeks ago, he hasn’t missed any time but I do wonder if perhaps he’s playing through injury.
 
For all the hype that he wasn't as athletic as Jones, I think that Zappe moves around in the pocket very well and has the speed to pick up yardage if needed.
People think Zappe is less athletic than Jones?! Zappe looks significantly stronger, especially in his legs and core, than Jones.
 
One thing a lot of folks mention is that Zappe only looks better than Mac at times because the OL is playing better - but I kinda question that. Is the OL actually pass-blocking better, or is Zappe just moving in the pocket much better than Mac was? I feel like I saw at least 4 plays today that would’ve been sure sacks for Mac, where Zappe instead at minimum threw the ball away, and at least once completely evaded the rush by stepping up or to the side and completing a pass.

One such play borderline gave me goosebumps because he had a rusher barreling down at him from the blind side that he absolutely could not see and he just effortlessly stepped forward at the perfect time, as if he has that QB “sixth sense” where he can feel the rushers without seeing them. I honestly couldn’t believe it and that was the moment that made me really put one foot on the Zappe hype train.
 
People think Zappe is less athletic than Jones?! Zappe looks significantly stronger, especially in his legs and core, than Jones.

Ya I don't get that, maybe the kid isn't gonna run for 40-50 yards a game but if that was Jones in there today, probably would have been 3-4 more sacks for the Browns, Zappe used his strength and athleticism to get out of a few pressures

on 1 escape he should have had a TD but Henry got pushed out and touched the ball. This was the play that actually has me now thinking maybe ride with Zappe for another week, let Jones get back to full health and then we'll see.
 
One thing a lot of folks mention is that Zappe only looks better than Mac at times because the OL is playing better - but I kinda question that. Is the OL actually pass-blocking better, or is Zappe just moving in the pocket much better than Mac was? I feel like I saw at least 4 plays today that would’ve been sure sacks for Mac, where Zappe instead at minimum threw the ball away, and at least once completely evaded the rush by stepping up or to the side and completing a pass.

One such play borderline gave me goosebumps because he had a rusher barreling down at him from the blind side that he absolutely could not see and he just effortlessly stepped forward at the perfect time, as if he has that QB “sixth sense” where he can feel the rushers without seeing them. I honestly couldn’t believe it and that was the moment that made me really put one foot on the Zappe hype train.
Zappe had alot of time in the pocket. Mac was under the gun early in the season, thats why he got hurt.
 
Zappe played well today, no doubt. His biggest differentiator so far vs Mac is ball security. At this point only Brian Hoyer has lost his job. Mac needs to play better when comes back or he will lose his job. That said Zappe is no sure thing. He had plenty of rookie moments, including bouncing a pass off the back of Andrew's helmet. Everyone was using a similar play from Thursday's game to make the case that Fields sucks. The real story is that the team is coming together, including the o-line and play calling. What a turnaround!
 
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One thing a lot of folks mention is that Zappe only looks better than Mac at times because the OL is playing better - but I kinda question that. Is the OL actually pass-blocking better, or is Zappe just moving in the pocket much better than Mac was? I feel like I saw at least 4 plays today that would’ve been sure sacks for Mac, where Zappe instead at minimum threw the ball away, and at least once completely evaded the rush by stepping up or to the side and completing a pass.

One such play borderline gave me goosebumps because he had a rusher barreling down at him from the blind side that he absolutely could not see and he just effortlessly stepped forward at the perfect time, as if he has that QB “sixth sense” where he can feel the rushers without seeing them. I honestly couldn’t believe it and that was the moment that made me really put one foot on the Zappe hype train.
Mac is super jittery in the pocket. Zappe has much better movement and escapability. Also def seems stronger, saw him shrug off defenders that for sure have taken down Mac
 
Mac is super jittery in the pocket. Zappe has much better movement and escapability. Also def seems stronger, saw him shrug off defenders that for sure have taken down Mac
Oline has been dominant with Strange and Cannon. O-line is the key to any high scoring offense.
 
Zappe played well today, no doubt. His biggest differentiator so far vs make is ball security. At this point only Brian Hoyer has lost his job. Mac needs to play better when comes back or he will lose his job. That said Zappe is no sure thing. He had plenty of rookie moments, including bouncing a pass off the back of Andrew's helmet. Everyone was using a similar play from Thursday's game to make the case that Fields sucks. The real story is that the team is coming together, including the o-line and play calling. What a turnaround!
Good QB play has a way of elevating an entire team. That’s why they make the big bucks.
 
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