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I'd argue Herbert is up there as well. But all depends on his dumb analytics HCMahomes and Allen are the only elite QB’s in the AFC. Burrow is coming close.
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I'd argue Herbert is up there as well. But all depends on his dumb analytics HCMahomes and Allen are the only elite QB’s in the AFC. Burrow is coming close.
He has to get his team the playoffs to be in the conversation.I'd argue Herbert is up there as well. But all depends on his dumb analytics HC
Will you finally admit Allen is elite? If you won't now, you never will.
No other QB has ever had back to back playoff games with 4+ TD's and over 300 yards passing.....ever. He did it against our top 3 defense as well. I don't think you'll ever admit he's elite no matter what he does. The guy is insane and keeps getting better which is crazy.He has played like an elite QB the last two games. That doesn’t make him elite until he shows it with consistency. He wouldn’t be the first player who upped his game exponentially in the playoffs only to come down to earth the following season. See playoffs Joe Flacco vs regular season Joe Flacco for an example.
No other QB has ever had back to back playoff games with 4+ TD's and over 300 yards passing.....ever. He did it against our top 3 defense as well. I don't think you'll ever admit he's elite no matter what he does. The guy is insane and keeps getting better which is crazy.
LOL He was runner up for MVP in 2020 and he was talked about this year till he hit a bump against the Jets. He had an outside shot right up till week 15. His career playoff stats are 14 TD's 1INT 1700 yards passing, 350 yards rushing and 1TD.Did you miss where I said he played like an elite QB in the playoffs? I said it. He wasn’t elite during the season. He is a great QB, but not elite. He played better in the 2020 season than he did in the 2021 regular season. And few people were calling him elite in 2020.
If he plays next year more like he did in the playoffs than he did in the regular season, then he will be considered elite.
Two games are not a career no matter how amazing you play in those two games.
LOL He was runner up for MVP in 2020 and he was talked about this year till he hit a bump against the Jets. He had an outside shot right up till week 15. His career playoff stats are 14 TD's 1INT 1700 yards passing, 350 yards rushing and 1TD.
You're 100% in the minority here which is fine.
I wasn't refering to this board necessarily but in general.I don't care what anyone else thinks. I saw him throw three INTs against a crappy Falcons defense and fail to get a single TD and threw two INTS against an abysmal Jaguars' defense. I remember about a month and a half ago where most of the people on this board were talking about how he can't play in bad weather, he can be easily forced into making stupid mistakes if you pressure him, and how he hadn't beaten anyone. Majority view on this board was that he was overrated and inconsistent.
I don't change my view based on a few games. He isn't in the elite zone. At least not yet. I put him at the the top of the next tier. If he can become consistent in his player, he will hit the elite status. I still think the only elite QBs in the league are Brady, Rodgers (at least in the regular season), and Mahomes. If you start having 4-6 QBs being elite in a league of 32 starting QBs, then elite doesn't mean anything anymore. Do we put Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Matthew Stafford, or possibly even Dak Prescott? They all had arguably similar or better seasons than Allen in terms of QB play. That is a like a fifth of the league being elite then.
And the bigger point is that we do not know if Allen can carry lesser talent and when he starts to lose pieces around him and Daboll whether he can still carry the offense. That is something we won't know for several years.
He has played like an elite QB the last two games. That doesn’t make him elite until he shows it with consistency. He wouldn’t be the first player who upped his game exponentially in the playoffs only to come down to earth the following season. See playoffs Joe Flacco vs regular season Joe Flacco for an example.
I don't care what anyone else thinks. I saw him throw three INTs against a crappy Falcons defense and fail to get a single TD and threw two INTS against an abysmal Jaguars' defense.
welp....stop the tabulation...THIS is the weekly winner of the Blind Homer Braying Like Jackazz award. Some of these fans of other teams that come here are definitely using drugs.Oh, you’re just lying. Now I understand.
For those who don’t realize, the way I know he is lying is because he said he saw Allen throw 3 INT’s against the Falcons. Or if not lying, then just purposefully misrepresenting what happened. If he actually watched the game, he would have known that 2 of the 3 were tipped passes that weren’t Allen’s fault, and the last INT was Beasley abruptly stopping his route to argue with the ref about being held.
It was one of those games where a QB just has bad luck with tips and miscommunications. There wasn’t a single one that was a bad throw or a defender jumped a route or anything like that.
No offense, but this post is ridiculous.
Forget the playoffs. Flacco NEVER had a regular season (let alone two), like Allen just had.
Allen finished 2021:
#2 in Total TD’s
#4 in Total Yards
#4 in 1st Downs
I hope you’re right that he becomes more “consistent”, because if he does, he’ll be #1 across the board lol.
Oh, you’re just lying. Now I understand.
For those who don’t realize, the way I know he is lying is because he said he saw Allen throw 3 INT’s against the Falcons. Or if not lying, then just purposefully misrepresenting what happened. If he actually watched the game, he would have known that 2 of the 3 were tipped passes that weren’t Allen’s fault, and the last INT was Beasley abruptly stopping his route to argue with the ref about being held.
It was one of those games where a QB just has bad luck with tips and miscommunications. There wasn’t a single one that was a bad throw or a defender jumped a route or anything like that.
I can't remember specifics, but who tipped the ball? The receiver or the defender. If the defender tipped the ball, it is on Allen. If the receiver tipped the ball, it could be either depending on whether it was a catchable ball or not. But this one certainly is on Allen:
Beasley was held on that play which threw off the timing.