DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION Official Patriots Draft Day 3 Thread - Rounds 4-7

[patsinthesnow]

Boutte reminds me of when the pats drafted alfonzo dennard in round 7 in 2012 when they didn’t address a need besides a late flier on a player with high upside that fell due to character concerns. They got two seasons of decent CB2 play out of him so hopefully boutte can be similar.

 

[upstater1]

This is ridiculous. They aren't going to draft players that they don't think can play.

Adrian Klemm's LT at Oregon just went off the board. Those clamoring for tackles aren't even asking why his own coach didn't recommend him over a punter.

 

[DaBruinz]

that's the problem with taking things out of context. That was White's demeanor because he'd been in the green room the day before and he fell out of the 1st round. So he was PISSED that he wasn't drafted earlier. Watching the full video, he and his mom ended up sharing a moment.

 

[Love The Drake]

I don't think so, which is what makes moving up for the kicker even more of a head scratcher move. Folk hit over 85% of his kicks last year. We didn't need a kicker in the early 4th round.

I don’t see us moving up for the guy with some decent talent on the board if they don’t intend to have him on the 53.

 

[upstater1]

So according to Brugler's, the only guy who is even in the neighborhood of the 4th round is Sidy Sow? I've seen him ranked as UDFA by other draft guides, but let's give it to Brugler's and assume Sow went where he should, that doesn't excuse the other reaches.

If you wanted fringe backup players why not just take Andrews and Ryland in the 6th when we have THREE 6th round picks?

This doesn't negate the assertion that we made a lot of REACHES in round 4 and essentially went for backup quality players rather than go for players that could be potential contributors to the 1st team or regular rotation players.

A kicker in the 4th round, just feels really hard to defend, especially since the Patriots actually spent two picks to move up for him. If he gets cut in training camp then this pick just becomes silly indefensible.

And I don't see how anyone can defend Andrews pick who has no business being taken in round 4.

Yet the analyst on NFL channel said he personally had conversations with more than 2 teams that they were absolutely taking Andrews in the 5th round.

I don't like the pick either, but primarily because it reeks of a Cole Popovich recommendation

 

[Wozzy]

I don't think so, which is what makes moving up for the kicker even more of a head scratcher move. Folk hit over 85% of his kicks last year. We didn't need a kicker in the early 4th round.

Folk misses anything over 40 yards, he is too weak to kickoff.

Nice guy, glad we had him when we had nobody else, but we needed to bring in some talented competition for his job.

He may still win his job back. Rookies aren't to be trusted, until they prove they can be.

 

[Dingleberry]

Take a fckng athlete, I don't give a rats azz if they're "raw" like Bryce Wheaton or Kuntz... take a damn athlete!!!!!!!

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I've been begging for a raw Kuntz. Make it happen, Bill!

 

[upstater1]

You asked me to name a guard after that. Again, you can go through the depth chart last year and point out the ****ty guards they had. We've all been here, we all know who was on the team.

So now you understand the need for drafting IOL

 

[DaBruinz]

It's this kind of hype crap that Kayshon bought into down here. My post got bypassed quick, but he's just not that good! And I went to LSU and watch every game every season.

I don't think anyone bypassed what you said. They could just be taking your opinion with a grain of salt because you seem to be ignoring that Boutte isn't even 21 yet. Whereas many of the other players are 23 and 24.
I don't see anyone proclaiming Boutte some steal of the draft. I think he's a Boom/Bust type pick. He has potential to be a possession receiver on the outside like David Givens. A lot depends on his maturity and whether he can get confidence back in his ankle. If not, he'll be gone.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Listen any time you have he's you know, any time you have a coach that's a Bill Belichick, that's a coach that's the greatest coach of all time. The goat, isn't that what they say? Listen, they made some good picks, they made some picks I'm sure they'd want back. They came in and I was the 46th pick overall and I was selected at 46, and everything else, that's for you guys to write about. We're on to New England.

 

[Love The Drake]

Now we know Steve Belichick has a big say on the draft


Chad is a stud. He’s the best kicker in the nation and he’s going to be one of the best kickers in the NFL. 100% fact,” Sow said. “As a person, I love him. He’s a great dude. We’ve known each other for a while. We still talk to each other to this day. WE ARE HUGE CALL OF DUTY TEAMMATES!”

 

[ctpatsfan77]

My only concern about Bryce is that he lacks hang time on his punts. He has plenty of leg. As for Chad, we could have had him with one of our 6th rounders and I'd have been fine with that pick, but as a 4th+ it was clearly a reach.

At the Senior Bowl the coaching seemed to make a difference, as his hang time was much better than at MSU.

 

[DaBruinz]

X Hutchinson to the Texans

 

[DaBruinz]

Iosivas to the Bengals.

 

[Zuma]

I'd like to see a kicking / punting coach brought in. I don't know if Judge has had 2 new additions previously but can he actually coach those positions? I don't think Achord is up for it.

 

[They_Hate_We]

I don't think anyone bypassed what you said. They could just be taking your opinion with a grain of salt because you seem to be ignoring that Boutte isn't even 21 yet. Whereas many of the other players are 23 and 24.
I don't see anyone proclaiming Boutte some steal of the draft. I think he's a Boom/Bust type pick. He has potential to be a possession receiver on the outside like David Givens. A lot depends on his maturity and whether he can get confidence back in his ankle. If not, he'll be gone.

I can agree with that. It's just that some posters were wondering why he fell from a top 10 pick to a sixth rounder. I was just trying to explain what we LSU fans experienced with him to give some perspective.

 

[bakes781]

I would add in special teams coaching.

That's a given lol but we can't draft those replacements unfortunately

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Folk misses anything over 40 yards, he is too weak to kickoff.

Nice guy, glad we had him when we had nobody else, but we needed to bring in some talented competition for his job.

He may still win his job back. Rookies aren't to be trusted, until they prove they can be.

He was pretty good in the 40s until this past year.

 

[Love The Drake]

Iosivas to the Bengals.

Binkie gone.

Is Tyler Bagent still out there?

 

[PatsFanInVa]

How is a guy named Andrei Iosevas from Hawaii and not Thessalonika or something?