DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION Official Day 1 2019 Draft Thread

[DaBruinz]

Could be the next Dez Bryant.

In what way could he be the "next Dez Bryant"?

 

[Deus Irae]

I don't like this pick.


I Love this pick.

If word of this gets out, New England hospitals will be so overwhelmed that they won't be able to help all the people who stroke out.

 

[DaBruinz]

I love the people claiming that "Harry will struggle to separate" when the kid has a 1.48 10 yard split and he did 27 on the BP.. In fact, his 10 and 20 yard split numbers are the same as Metcalf..

I don't think that beating press coverage will be that hard for Harry as people are fretting

 

[DaBruinz]

So does this mean Deebo won't be saying hi to Billy tomorrow?

I have the Pats triple dipping at WR. So don't be sad just yet..

 

[Ring 6]

Amen. The immediate reactions, both positive and negative, puzzle me. Let's see what this kid (N'Keal) does and hope for the best.

I get you're talking about someone else, but the point is still valid.

Exactly it’s valid for every pick whether it’s praised or trashed.
Imagine if Brady was drafted #1 overall. It would have been called the worst luck ever. Now it would be called the best pick ever.

 

[DaBruinz]

And no speed. But apparently he doesn't need either one because he jumps and fights for the ball.

This is just sillyness. 4.53 isn't "no speed". It's the same speed that Edelman has. But he's got faster acceleration with the 1.48 and 2.53 splits.

 

[DaBruinz]

Harry is an inch taller than metcalf

Actually, it's the other way around. Metcalf is 6'3 3/8. I've seen Harry listed at 6'2 3/8 and 6'2 7/8. Not sure which. Either way, though, Metcalf is taller.

 

[DaBruinz]

NFLN live interview just finished. He seems like a smart, humble and level-headed kid.

All qualities that Dez Bryant didn't have, Herm Edwards..

Herm Edwards, N'Keal Harry's college coach, on M&C: He's similar to Dez Bryant

 

[DaBruinz]

There are some exceptions.

Deion Branch, Randy Moss.

You might even include David Patten in that because Patten did not do much elsewhere.

Branch ran a 4.45 - 40
Randy Moss ran a 4.28 - 40.
David Patten - 4.29 - 40

Moss and Patten were both speedsters. I wouldn't put Branch in the same category as them. That's just me, though..

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Arizona called B.B. and offered him Rosen for 32 overall so they could draft Harry.

 

[Joey007]

We can’t let Harry wear 17.

 

[upstater1]

Branch ran a 4.45 - 40
Randy Moss ran a 4.28 - 40.
David Patten - 4.29 - 40

Moss and Patten were both speedsters. I wouldn't put Branch in the same category as them. That's just me, though..

I honestly didn't know their speeds at all. Branch ran by people, which is why I included him, but it could be he was so good at breaking his routes that people always crept in on him, and then bam---he was gone.

 

[catent]

Arizona called B.B. and offered him Rosen for 32 overall so they could draft Harry.

Is this actually confirmed, or just speculation?

 

[patsbrasilpatriotas]

Draft ratings are funny to me.

When you go back in 5 years and look at the draft you wouldn’t come close to redrafting the way it was originally done. Most first rounded end up not being among the best 32 players in that draft and most of the top 10-15 definitely don’t end up top 10-15.

So are we judging the draft based upon how it looks compared to the predraft grades which ultimately price to be way off, or based upon what the player is going to be in our opinion?

If it’s the former, it’s pointless. “X is a good pick because the people who predict the draft and end up being really wrong say he should have gone higher.”
If it’s the later then the typical first round ouch should be a C and half of them are D or F because they were overdrafted.

Not really criticizing your ratings just saying it’s a strange exercise.

I get your point. In my case i just don't like both GB picks and don't like the reaches from Raiders and Giants. If you want Daniel Jones and want a 5th year option trade with Rams or trade back with Redskins and get many picks as you can and your player as SEA did. But i get what you want to say and i agree, it is pointless without them actually playing.

Let's look at the Pats.

Probably they got their WR1 and that's why i give them an A the+ is the fact that i like the player.

The other way to look at this pick is: There are so many good WR, they could reach for a TE or OT and grab a better player (WR) at 56. They probably won't double dip at WR and a WR will probably the best player aviable at 56. If you think like that i would give them an B or B+ because it is a need.

Let's say:

Neal
Jace Sternberger

or

Greg Little (reach)
Deebo Samuel

or

Irv Smith (reach)
Deebo Samuel

 

[SBLIII]

Arizona called B.B. and offered him Rosen for 32 overall so they could draft Harry.

dodged a bullet if true

 

[Tony2046]

He does seem mature for his age.

Looking forward to great things from him.

I don't trust anyone who doesn't cry when drafted.

 

[captain stone]

Arizona called B.B. and offered him Rosen for 32 overall so they could draft Harry.

dodged a bullet if true

Arizona now in negotiations to send Rosen to Miami for #48 & other considerations, so stay tuned...

 

[Love The Drake]

Arizona now in negotiations to send Rosen to Miami for #48 & other considerations, so stay tuned...

Who is the source?

 

[SBLIII]

Who is the source?

fLORIO

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Draft ratings are funny to me.

When you go back in 5 years and look at the draft you wouldn’t come close to redrafting the way it was originally done. Most first rounded end up not being among the best 32 players in that draft and most of the top 10-15 definitely don’t end up top 10-15.

So are we judging the draft based upon how it looks compared to the predraft grades which ultimately price to be way off, or based upon what the player is going to be in our opinion?

If it’s the former, it’s pointless. “X is a good pick because the people who predict the draft and end up being really wrong say he should have gone higher.”
If it’s the later then the typical first round ouch should be a C and half of them are D or F because they were overdrafted.

Not really criticizing your ratings just saying it’s a strange exercise.

The way you & others speak its like no one is capable of grading or putting prospects in the correct tiers.

Like anything else some people are really good at it & some suck.