Official 2022 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[RicoG]

Former NFL RB LeSean McCoy says Patriots' Bill Belichick is 'like all the other coaches' without Tom Brady

McCoy thinks the notion of Belichick being the greatest coach ever is 'bullcrap'

www.cbssports.com

Nothing we didn't know.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Former NFL RB LeSean McCoy says Patriots' Bill Belichick is 'like all the other coaches' without Tom Brady

McCoy thinks the notion of Belichick being the greatest coach ever is 'bullcrap'

www.cbssports.com

Nothing we didn't know.

Yeah, but SB 42!

 

[Deus Irae]

The speculation was Suh was asking too much, but they dropped enough hints last season that they wanted to get younger and faster at DT even after his spectacular performance in their playoff loss to the Rams. Due to such a late signing, imo I don't think Suh signed for much.

He could have helped while Hicks was out injured. That's why I'm curious about the money involved.

 

[Deus Irae]

Rodgers and the Packers fall to 4-7, and they face the Eagles next week, in Philadelphia. It could get ugly for Green Bay, moving forward.

 

[Guts]

Rodgers and the Packers fall to 4-7, and they face the Eagles next week, in Philadelphia. It could get ugly for Green Bay, moving forward.

I think it already is.
Vikings have a huge lead in division and all the wild card teams are ahead or hold the tie breaker vs them other than the Cowgirls. I don't see them making the playoffs.

 

[1960Pats]

I see dumb coaches.
But they don't know they're dumb.
I see them all the time.

 

[VectorPrime]

Rodgers and the Packers fall to 4-7, and they face the Eagles next week, in Philadelphia. It could get ugly for Green Bay, moving forward.

They could have traded Rodgers to Denver and gotten what the Seahawks did for Wilson but chickened out. Whoops.

 

[1960Pats]

They could have traded Rodgers to Denver and gotten what the Seahawks did for Wilson but chickened out. Whoops.

Or they could have let Rodgers walk and received nothing for him, like some coaches would.

 

[amfootball]

Rodgers and the Packers fall to 4-7, and they face the Eagles next week, in Philadelphia. It could get ugly for Green Bay, moving forward.

Probably looking at double digit losses.

 

[sb1]

Former NFL RB LeSean McCoy says Patriots' Bill Belichick is 'like all the other coaches' without Tom Brady

McCoy thinks the notion of Belichick being the greatest coach ever is 'bullcrap'

www.cbssports.com

Nothing we didn't know.

Dunno about that. Other coaches can put a defense out there that can make the Buffalo Bills punt at least once…

 

[amfootball]

Former NFL RB LeSean McCoy says Patriots' Bill Belichick is 'like all the other coaches' without Tom Brady

McCoy thinks the notion of Belichick being the greatest coach ever is 'bullcrap'

www.cbssports.com

Nothing we didn't know.

Yeah. These last 2+ seasons have revealed just how mediocre Bill is without Brady.

 

[sb1]

Yeah. These last 2+ seasons have revealed just how mediocre Bill is without Brady.

Especially based on the catastrophe we are seeing on offense and Mac Jones. That’s on Bill. There was no reason to experiment with Judge and Patricia instead of paying for a real offensive coordinator. The second year leap has become a major regression. They may have already ruined a promising young QB. Hope I’m wrong. But bad coaching does that to young QBs.

And Bill with his word games egging on a QB controversy that should have never existed which led to Mac getting booed off the field on MNF.

Should be interesting to see what Kraft thinks about all of this.

 

[Deus Irae]

When you use voidable years, the void cap hits can stay in their original years if you sign a new deal before the current one voids (typically in March). If you don't do that, all the voided cap burden accelerates against the next year's cap.

So Brady, for instance, as it stands, counts $10.8 million in dead money each year from 2023 to 2025, plus $2.8 million in 2026. If he doesn't re-sign (or signs elsewhere) that all converts to $35 million in dead money against the 2023 salary cap.

 

[Deus Irae]

Now if Brady opts to retire, the Bucs can process the retirement so that the cap hit is split between 2023 and 2024 -- I think it's like $12 million in '23, $23 million in '24, but some short-term savings there.

So again, for optimal right-now cap savings on a player with voidable years, you want to re-sign them before the current deal voids, allowing you to spread the original dead-money cap hits over multiple seasons.

 

[Deus Irae]

I’ve come across multiple people in Berlin and Dresden who don’t know anything about the NFL and didn’t know that there was a big game in Munich. But somehow they know exactly who @TomBrady is. So I just tell them now, “I cover Tom Brady’s team.”

 

[Deus Irae]

It’s a deal with a base value of $1.25 million, with a maximum payout of $2.5 million.

On one hand, Suh was able to wait for the true contenders to emerge. On the other hand, he could have made a lot more by, for example, returning to the Buccaneers.

Inside the Ndamukong Suh deal - ProFootballTalk



Either the Bucs had absolutely no use for Suh, or he screwed himself rather than return the Tampa Bay on a low end deal.

 

[RicoG]

Inside the Ndamukong Suh deal - ProFootballTalk



Either the Bucs had absolutely no use for Suh, or he screwed himself rather than return the Tampa Bay on a low end deal.

Probably a little bit of both. Even if Suh was willing to play for 5mil with a 2.5mil base prorated for a full year, I'm not sure the Bucs would have been interested probably in part to Logan Hall who hasn't shown much so far.

 

[RicoG]

Especially based on the catastrophe we are seeing on offense and Mac Jones. That’s on Bill. There was no reason to experiment with Judge and Patricia instead of paying for a real offensive coordinator. The second year leap has become a major regression. They may have already ruined a promising young QB. Hope I’m wrong. But bad coaching does that to young QBs.

And Bill with his word games egging on a QB controversy that should have never existed which led to Mac getting booed off the field on MNF.

Should be interesting to see what Kraft thinks about all of this.

BB might be using this season to learn and gage the team for a serious run next season.

Mac's ceiling is not very high, top 10 at best. Zappe might have a higher upside and my bet is that he will be the starting QB next season.

 

[Deus Irae]

A follow-up: the Eagles gave Ndamukong Suh the exact same contract terms as Linval Joseph. So Howie Roseman saw his run defense was in a rut, called up two veterans fit to stuff the run, offered them identical contracts and said “We’ll see you on the field soon.”

 

[VectorPrime]

Considering it took until mid November for Suh to sign at basically vet minimum I suspect he’s just cooked.