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  1. PatsFan2

    PatsFan2 Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    What some fail to understand Not many Teams are WR heavy in 2019. So the $$$$$ being thrown around in FA is no mystery at that position every year the cap goes up. What surprises me is that two guys I liked ended up in Buffalo with a crap QB.:confused: I cannot believe they weren't on our Radar Cole Beasely or John Brown. If the Patriots don't get one of the few that's left they will be forced to go the Route most FEARED by the Majority of Patsfans the Draft for a WR route. :eek:
     

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    Uhh, yeah....WITH THE RAMS. You just proved my point. Cooks didn't have that hit he was traded for here.

    Belichick isn't and wasn't trading for a WR with a gigantic cap hit while also giving up a first, a first round talent Safety and an additional third.

    I wanted Beckham too, but that type of trade isn't cost effective for New England, a team that's coming off a title, who's constantly done more with less at this position.

    For a floundering franchise like Cleveland that hasn't made the playoffs in 17 years, it's worth the risk to go all-in.
     
  3. Patstastic

    Patstastic On the Game Day Roster

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    I'm not sure he is in any condition to be receiver for the Pats. He's busy with other stuff...
     
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  4. festy1986

    festy1986 In the Starting Line-Up

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    No. Wrong. You dont need to individually reply to everything you disagree with either. I'd be here all month if I did that.
     
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    festy1986 In the Starting Line-Up

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    You're on record then with how awesome the wideout and passing game was last year?

    Great, we found the one guy.
     
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    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Plus there's that hands thing.
     
  7. PatsDeb

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    Great move for Cleveland (not so sure about OBJ), but they could be a contender if Baker Mayfield is all that, which he showed flashes of last year.
     
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    The refs in that one missed an easy 15 yarder on the Romans for spearing.
     
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  9. BaconGrundleCandy

    BaconGrundleCandy Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Give me a cap guy & I would do a better job. Holy sh it DG is terrible. Back 2 back RB in the 1st Rd. Constantly & consistently letting his players walk. At the time biggest OT deal for Nate. Trades Beckham after keeping Eli way past his prime.

    Now what they're going to trade up for Lock or Haskins LOL???

    Honestly that's embarrassing at this level. Amazing these losers keep getting hired.
     
  10. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Florida Man PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Meh, I can't fault him too much for Barkley. He's the kind of RB that you can build a young core around. But he's made some embarrassingly bad decisions, both in New York and Carolina, otherwise.
     
  11. AndyJohnson

    AndyJohnson PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    What’s wrong?
    Did we not win the Sb or were we not a top passing offense?
     
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    I never expected New England to trade for him.

    I was only responding to the idea that Cleveland splurged for him, or that they didn't get value.

    When you compare both Cooks' trades to Beckham, I see they are comparable. For one, Cooks counts for much more against the salary cap. And two, Beckham is a much better player.

    You also have to consider though that the Patriots would have paid him a good amount f the Rams hadn't stepped in with a no-brainer offer. After all, I doubt Belichick would have expended a first rounder on a guy that he would have let walk a year later. Tat would have been a waste. I have to believe Belichick talked to Cooks' agent before he ever sent a first rounder to the Saints.
     
  13. BaconGrundleCandy

    BaconGrundleCandy Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    See that was a bad pick imo. No OL or not enough for me to invest that high (I'd never take a RB that high anyway) a pick & a bad QB situation.

    Trade back or take a QB. By the time your good again SQB will be looking for that big money 2nd contract.
     
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    I'm very happy we won the superbowl and I'll he even happier if we upgrade the WR group.

    Plenty of time to do it.
     
  15. luuked

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    You are literally quoting the wrong posts you dink. But lets play your moron game.

    Please show me the reply where I said even a single word about you being afraid of KC. And then when you find that post go up the damn chain to realize whats going on. Jesus..
     
  16. LJRomanoff

    LJRomanoff Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Yeah but you can always count on him to bring a few Immaculate Receptions to the game.
     
  17. luuked

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    I missed the rule change where only your WR are allowed to participate on offense.

    Given the amount of 2 WR sets we were running and the price we were paying for those two (Edelman, Hogan) it was not earth shattering but was enough to once again make us one of the top offenses in the league.

    They tried their ass off last year to find options but ran into an unfortunate string of injuries during camp. Then went out and signed Gordon only for him to relapse. I can't say the team didn't try to address it. I am sure they will try it again this year and will be more successful.

    Or in other words.. the offense run by Brady/McDaniels and the WR specifically are really not a worry on my mind. Especially not in March.
     
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    festy1986 In the Starting Line-Up

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    We need to improve the wideout situation.

    It's not dire straits but it needs to happen.
     
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  19. luuked

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    See this is something I totally agree with. My issue was just the almost desperate tone initially that was just a hyperbole. No offense intended.
     
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  20. Todd Bradley

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    Cooks costs us a 1st and $1.6 million against the cap.

    Beckham would've cost us a 1st, a 3rd (probably a 2nd actually, since our picks are much higher than Cleveland), a young talent like JC Jackson and $16 million against the cap, for the next three years.

    That's not comparable in the slightest.
     

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