Now we get to see if Kraft is cheap or shrewd

[Family]

Callahan: Robert Kraft must stick the landing in Patriots’ coaching search

The Krafts did the right thing in firing Jerod Mayo. But the job’s not done.

www.bostonherald.com

I know what the board thinks, but you might be wrong.

 

[borg]

A decade of data provides the answer......

Over the past 10 years, the Patriots ranked last in the NFL in cash spending at $1.62 billion, according to Roster Management System. The Philadelphia Eagles, at $1.92 billion, were tops over that span.

Patriots, Jerod Mayo 'ready to burn some cash' to help with rebuild

The Patriots have a projected $65 million in salary cap space, and "we're ready to burn some cash," new coach Jerod Mayo said Monday.

www.espn.com

 

[Wax Frog]

... or just clueless.

 

[PWRxWLF]

I could give two ****s how much they spend if they bring in the right players. Amount of money spent means nothing. It’s a delicate balance with an eye for impact players that matters. Look at the Tits. Blew all that money and don’t have **** to show for it.

 

[signbabybrady]

Obviously they better spend it well. But also spend it all no holding back this year.

 

[NFL Mystique]

They didn't need to spend much during the Brady years because he was able to turn average players into good ones. That was a huge advantage they no longer have.

 

[XLIX]

Look at the Tits.

Well.... I mean..... if you insist....

 

[TheRainMaker]

Wait a second, do you guys realize the Pats spent over $146M in fully guaranteed money to juggernauts such as Kyle Dugger, Michel Owenu, Christian Barmore, Rham, Dogchow and Hunter? Or do does this only apply if they sign new FA's from other teams? Lol at some of you thinking the Pats are off the hook.

Between the 6 Titans players listed and the 6 Pats players listed, the Titans only spent less than $4M more (just over $150M) in fully guaranteed money. Let that sink in.

In the end, Mayo didn't walk back the "burning cash" comment. It just went right under your radar because they gave it to their own. Elliot Wolf is by far the worst GM I've ever seen.

 

[mgteich]

Wait a second, do you guys realize the Pats spent over $146M in fully guaranteed money to juggernauts such as Kyle Dugger, Michel Owenu, Christian Barmore, Rham, Dogchow and Hunter? Or do does this only apply if they sign new FA's from other teams? Lol at some of you thinking the Pats are off the hook.

Between the 6 Titans players listed and the 6 Pats players listed, the Titans only spent less than $4M more (just over $150M) in fully guaranteed money. Let that sink in.

In the end, Mayo didn't walk back the "burning cash" comment. It just went right under your radar because they gave it to their own. Elliot Wolf is by far the worst GM I've ever seen.

I'm fine until your last sentence.

Of course, appearance is in the eye of the beholder. Wolf was not and is unlikely to ever be the GM of the New England Patriots.
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Lots of money was spent last year, much of it from the 2025 and 2026 cap years. Now, we will see whether we can do a better job than TEN did last year when we spend a huge amount AGAIN.

Very little is likely going to spent on re-signing our own, so we should definitely make a big splash in free agency.

Of course, ONE big question is the quality of the acquisitions. I expect Highsmith/Vrabel/Wolf/(Vrabel's man) to do well.

The other bid question IMO has already been answered. The coaching will be hugely better with Mayo and Covington gone.

 

[mgteich]

Callahan: Robert Kraft must stick the landing in Patriots’ coaching search

The Krafts did the right thing in firing Jerod Mayo. But the job’s not done.

www.bostonherald.com

I know what the board thinks, but you might be wrong.

This should be a stickie reminder of what could have happened to us.

Schefter gets it. Do we?

 

[signbabybrady]

Wait a second, do you guys realize the Pats spent over $146M in fully guaranteed money to juggernauts such as Kyle Dugger, Michel Owenu, Christian Barmore, Rham, Dogchow and Hunter? Or do does this only apply if they sign new FA's from other teams? Lol at some of you thinking the Pats are off the hook.

Between the 6 Titans players listed and the 6 Pats players listed, the Titans only spent less than $4M more (just over $150M) in fully guaranteed money. Let that sink in.

In the end, Mayo didn't walk back the "burning cash" comment. It just went right under your radar because they gave it to their own. Elliot Wolf is by far the worst GM I've ever seen.

Over how many years? I don't think your accounting is exactly how most people look at things. They left money on the table last year and have more than anyone else this year. With some better accounting they easily could have had better talent last year and still a huge chunk of cap space this year.

 

[mike_usagisan]

It's really hard to get that much better through free agency. Most teams extend their best players (especially as the cap rises so fast). That's why you have to have good drafts.

 

[ViperGTS]

They didn't need to spend much during the Brady years because he was able to turn average players into good ones. That was a huge advantage they no longer have.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Get Maye some decent protection and he can make players better. Hell he turned Boutte into a decent receiver who grew some confidence.

 

[mgteich]

It's really hard to get that much better through free agency. Most teams extend their best players (especially as the cap rises so fast). That's why you have to have good drafts.

Are you saying that PHI and WAS (and LAC?) didn't get better through free agency in 2024?

 

[raduray]

A decade of data provides the answer......

Over the past 10 years, the Patriots ranked last in the NFL in cash spending at $1.62 billion, according to Roster Management System. The Philadelphia Eagles, at $1.92 billion, were tops over that span.

I'm missing something here. All teams have to spend to the cap over a four year running average. I can understand how in a given year cash spending can be higher than cap spending with bonuses that can count against future year cap limits. But I don't understand how cash spending can be lower than cap spending over a number of years.

Also, given that teams can underspend in certain years and then make it up in other years, the snapshots can be misleading. Hypothetically, the Eagles may have been over the cap in the first and last year of that ten year span and the Patriots under, like we know was the case last year. That could explain some of the discrepancy.

 

[mgteich]

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Get Maye some decent protection and he can make players better. Hell he turned Boutte into a decent receiver who grew some confidence.

I agree. And then, we'll have one receiver threat.

 

[signbabybrady]

I'm missing something here. All teams have to spend to the cap over a four year running average. I can understand how in a given year cash spending can be higher than cap spending with bonuses that can count against future year cap limits. But I don't understand how cash spending can be lower than cap spending over a number of years.

Also, given that teams can underspend in certain years and then make it up in other years, the snapshots can be misleading. Hypothetically, the Eagles may have been over the cap in the first and last year of that ten year span and the Patriots under, like we know was the case last year. That could explain some of the discrepancy.

 

[TommyD4207]

I'm missing something here. All teams have to spend to the cap over a four year running average. I can understand how in a given year cash spending can be higher than cap spending with bonuses that can count against future year cap limits. But I don't understand how cash spending can be lower than cap spending over a number of years.

Also, given that teams can underspend in certain years and then make it up in other years, the snapshots can be misleading. Hypothetically, the Eagles may have been over the cap in the first and last year of that ten year span and the Patriots under, like we know was the case last year. That could explain some of the discrepancy.

You're only on the hook for certain bonuses. Roster bonuses get paid out when the player is on the roster, signing bonus is due at signing, workout bonus gets paid out when they fulfill the requirements, etc. Playtime incentives, stat incentives, all of that.

While all these count to some degree against the cap in terms of dead money, and would count in cap dollars - this money isn't necessarily paid out if the players don't fulfill the requirements.

The Patriots have been notorious for cutting players right before they have to pay out big bonuses, or artificially reducing playtime so players don't reach bonuses.

Rhamondre Stevenson played 0 snaps last weekend. He was just short of 1000 yards. Do you think maybe he had a bonus for hitting 1000 yards?

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Pretty sure Bill helped some of the guys that worked hard for him.
AAMOF, I think he gave tough guys a break on that stuff.
I dunno.. probably wrong..he is a **** after all.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I'm missing something here. All teams have to spend to the cap over a four year running average. I can understand how in a given year cash spending can be higher than cap spending with bonuses that can count against future year cap limits. But I don't understand how cash spending can be lower than cap spending over a number of years.

Also, given that teams can underspend in certain years and then make it up in other years, the snapshots can be misleading. Hypothetically, the Eagles may have been over the cap in the first and last year of that ten year span and the Patriots under, like we know was the case last year. That could explain some of the discrepancy.

I think the rule is the team has to spend at least 89% of the cap. Some teams spend closer to 100%. I am not sure the exact numbers.

This year, the NFL salary cap is set at $255.5 million per team. If a team doesn’t use all of its salary cap for a season, it’s allowed to roll over the unused balance to the next season. Teams still need to spend at least 89% of their cap over a four-year rolling period, so they can’t keep building up their cap over time.

Timing of the 10 year period will effect the cash spend figure too, like you note.

The players union survey also shows the Krafts are cheap spending on peripheral items. There is not this much smoke without a fire.