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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I believe it is a spiritual problem. A spiritual emptiness inside that needs filling. It is a fact that Christian centered rehab approaches are the most successful but cant get gov. funding so they have secular psychobabble approaches that are much less effective.
More mood altering than mind but valid point. Similar to caffeine but more addictiveNicotine is actually mind-altering.....just not in the way other vices are.
I believe it is a spiritual problem. A spiritual emptiness inside that needs filling. It is a fact that Christian centered rehab approaches are the most successful but cant get gov. funding so they have secular psychobabble approaches that are much less effective.
Yeah, Josh is a great guy for taking a dump on 3 teams that bent over backwards so he could succeed in life.
His beloved Superbowl ring will be up for grabs on Pawn Stars in about 18 months.
To all the poster who said "you can't count on Gordon for the whole season", you were right and I was wrong.
I was hoping that he could slay his demons, I feel bad for him, but on the football side, you just can not waste the capital on him anymore.
I guess I also have to admit that the Pats knew what they were doing when they went out and got Sanu and jettisoned Gordon.
Nicotine as a cognitive enhancer. - PubMed - NCBINicotine isn’t a mind altering substance
You need to accept the medical facts on this illness. It’s not like you can make up your own definition
if someone dies in a drunk driving accident, you don’t have to feel bad for the drunk driver
Let me guess...you’re a control freak who’s a bit OCD in your life
Snowflakes now calling everything virtue signaling, it's an interesting development.
We were in the Josh camp last year. Felt bad when he offended his way off the 2018 Pats a year ago. At the time, thought the team had blown its shot at the SB. Was happy to see him on the team this year. Expected to see him develop as a more complete route runner. When that failed to materialize perhaps that could have been a leading indicator of something wrong. When BB unexpectedly (to me at least) cut him I figured that some behind the scenes conduct detrimental to the team behavior was the issue. I did not expect him to last through the playoffs with Seattle.
Can't imagine what it takes to stay clean when seriously addicted. My simple addiction to 1-3 cigs a day habit at work took me nearly a dozen tries and as many years to stay off the tebackie.
On a personal note, I identify with Gordon’s struggles because I am also an addict. It’s that simple. I’m fortunate in that I no longer suffer from active substance addiction.
As a matter of fact, it was 30 years since my last drink/drug last week. I don’t say that to brag but so that other members can see it is possible. I am no more deserving of sobriety than the millions still suffering. It’s something I have to deal with as long as I’m above ground.
So I understand in a very personal way exactly what Josh feels, thinks and experiences. I understand how he can put all his strength and effort into being a better person only to fail time after time. I also know well the lack of self esteem that results from letting everyone down...especially myself.
I know what it feels like to feel like a loser and wonder why I’m different than most. The worst feeling I experienced was coming to realization I was going to die young or just be a bum.
I also know how it feels to be freed from addiction and slowly rebuild my life. To see how people look at me differently today is worth more than money can buy.
The bottom line for me is that I believe Josh is a good guy and I know he can experience what I’ve experienced.
I can’t criticize, mock or joke about him because he’s just like me. But I’m sure people mocked and made jokes about me as well. But thankfully I don’t recall that happening
You of all people should be disgusted with Gordon. Gordon does not care if he becomes a bum.
And, no, youre not a loser until you quit. You win everyday.
So an addict who beats their demons (or at least learns how to keep them at bay) should be at the front of the shame line when another addict hasn't reached the same station in life?
Interesting concept. I would actually expect recovered/ing addicts to be more sympathetic, not less, to those further down the recovery funnel than themselves; as they know first hand the struggle, but what do I know.
The Ted Haggard approach never really spoke to me.
Agreed
Gordon is the way he is because his next town has a group of enablers willing and ready to tell him that its not his fault. Gordon quit on the Browns, the Patriots and his big chance to play in a post season game and the Seahawks who I expect to be in this upcoming Super Bowl.
As I stated before, take Gordon into your home when he falls into homelessness. Talk is cheap.
I actually didn’t care either. I was afraid more than I cared. I think only an addict can understand what Gordon is going throughYou of all people should be disgusted with Gordon. Gordon does not care if he becomes a bum.
And, no, youre not a loser until you quit. You win everyday.
I already posted that it’s similar to caffeine.