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NFL News NFL Cap Increases by $22M for 2025

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Again this is no exact science but you can find Higgins ranked around 28. Give or take I would say he is probably closer to 20-24.
This is… fantasy football lmfao. And PPR at that. You think the team should base their free agent acquisitions on fantasy football rankings?
 
One key thing to remember is that the Patriots’ roster is already full of guys that won’t actually make the roster, but are taking up $1M or so per player of cap space right now. As they are replaced by veterans, you’re effectively able to shave $1M off of the cap hits of those acquisitions because those players’ cap hits are displacing someone else already rostered.

This means that their $128M or so of cap space is a bit deceiving, as many mid-level players they sign will have first year cap hits of around $2-3M but will displace someone else’s $1M so they will only lower the cap space number by $1-2M.

This is in contrast to other teams who often have a lot of cap space but 45 or less rostered players, so the effect is not as significant.
 
I was expecting some high cost impact players, but really, Vrabel is going to be making over the bottom and middle of this roster extensively. Probably bring in quite a few role players.
 
This is… fantasy football lmfao. And PPR at that. You think the team should base their free agent acquisitions on fantasy football rankings?
No no. The list shows at least 20 players who are equal to or marginally better than Higgins. That's why I said 20-22 might be appropriate as opposed to Higgins being 15th best ranked wr in nfl
 
This is… fantasy football lmfao. And PPR at that. You think the team should base their free agent acquisitions on fantasy football rankings?
Plenty of guys on here who do, bud.
 
The original post gives no info... sooooo...

the salary cap will be between 277 and 281 million +/- ... the final cap number will be released next week...

the 2024 cap figure was 255m... so its an increase of ≈ 22 million dollars

last year, the cap increased by ≈ 30m

Wich gives is about 150 million in cap space. The notion we made add players similar to 2001 is still real here. That off season we added 23 FAs. We will get guys.. some top tier, some middle level, and some depth guys. I'm more interested in having a complete team offense, defense, special teams then just one player. We are allowed a 90 man roster during the off season people have to remember this.
 
Chase had 1,600 yards... our entire WR'S combined. I want a complete team. We have the QB, we have the coaching now get the entire roster up to NFL standards.
Remind your brother PF of this part. There's more to a complete team than shiny wideouts.
 
Remind your brother PF of this part. There's more to a complete team than shiny wideouts.
Oh he knows.. he just likes to point out possible game changers. but I've just come to the realization that this roster needs to be upgraded all around.. except QB.. give me 5 competent OL..& some DL that can actually get to the passer. A CB other than Gonzo that can challenge WRs..
 
Oh he knows.. he just likes to point out possible game changers. but I've just come to the realization that this roster needs to be upgraded all around.. except QB.. give me 5 competent OL..& some DL that can actually get to the passer. A CB other than Gonzo that can challenge WRs..
Ya. Like every other WR in the league that isn't in a Patriot uniform.

If they added a vet WR, via FA or trade, and drafted a real good one, I'd be thrilled. They can't revamp the whole room on one off season, but that would be a huge step in the right direction. I am optimistic that with JMcD here, they'll have the proper input as to what is needed. Add to that the they (likely) junked the Belichick scouting/grading model for something more up to date, I am cautiously optimistic going into the combine.
 
Ya. Like every other WR in the league that isn't in a Patriot uniform.

If they added a vet WR, via FA or trade, and drafted a real good one, I'd be thrilled. They can't revamp the whole room on one off season, but that would be a huge step in the right direction. I am optimistic that with JMcD here, they'll have the proper input as to what is needed. Add to that the they (likely) junked the Belichick scouting/grading model for something more up to date, I am cautiously optimistic going into the combine.
Exactly Steve,

As of post having Josh is already an upgrade in itself. Josh has a young stud 6'5 big arm, athletic, accurate and intelligent. This ain't Jimmy glass or Aiden Oconnell or Stiff stidham at QB. Definitely take a shot in the draft on a WR but also develop the guys you have. Polk and baker. They stand to benefit greater from Josh. For example say when FA winds down and we ended up with say deebo and kirk at WR.. I'd be happy. Because at least you have someone that has to be focused on from a DC.. allowing the others to play naturally within thier talent levels. A guy like Boutte could really thrive then. Also don't forget gibby is a do it all back.. catching out the backfield, line up out wide..
 
Wich gives is about 150 million in cap space. The notion we made add players similar to 2001 is still real here. That off season we added 23 FAs. We will get guys.. some top tier, some middle level, and some depth guys. I'm more interested in having a complete team offense, defense, special teams then just one player. We are allowed a 90 man roster during the off season people have to remember this.
no... the cap estimated that are on OTC were fairly accurate... @Ross12 pointed out that they were using an estimated 279m cap for this year... so it is basically in the range of what we were thinking... plus or minus a few million dollars...
 
no... the cap estimated that are on OTC were fairly accurate... @Ross12 pointed out that they were using an estimated 279m cap for this year... so it is basically in the range of what we were thinking... plus or minus a few million dollars...
I found out that they had corrected their site to the $279M number very quickly, previously they were using a figure around $273M. But still, it's a matter of like $6M, that's not going to do much. It means a team with zero cap space now has enough room to sign their draft class. Hardly factors into the grand scheme. It's within range of expectations. We'd need to be talking like $290M+ to actually be in the range of surprise and have real impact on the market.
 
no... the cap estimated that are on OTC were fairly accurate... @Ross12 pointed out that they were using an estimated 279m cap for this year... so it is basically in the range of what we were thinking... plus or minus a few million dollars...
Ok got it.. so we Don't have the assumed amount of 150 in real cap space?
 
Exactly Steve,

As of post having Josh is already an upgrade in itself. Josh has a young stud 6'5 big arm, athletic, accurate and intelligent. This ain't Jimmy glass or Aiden Oconnell or Stiff stidham at QB. Definitely take a shot in the draft on a WR but also develop the guys you have. Polk and baker. They stand to benefit greater from Josh. For example say when FA winds down and we ended up with say deebo and kirk at WR.. I'd be happy. Because at least you have someone that has to be focused on from a DC.. allowing the others to play naturally within thier talent levels. A guy like Boutte could really thrive then. Also don't forget gibby is a do it all back.. catching out the backfield, line up out wide..
I think you have it dialed. I think Baker has a 10 cent head and he's gonna struggle with JMcD's system. Polk likely will have a huge turnaround, huge being a relative term. He starts at zero. He's been horrible with horrible coaching. Now he will at least be coached well, and may be a capable NFL receiver. I don't think he is ever going to be great, but he may be a serviceable NFL player. Boutte has a real opportunity to shine here now, as does Pop, knowing how slot WRs excel in this system. To your point, Gibson is already here, so the role of James White / Kevin Faulk is filled.

They are already better. Get two WRs to bolster the room and fix the line, and they'll be a professional NFL offense.
 
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I think you have it dialed. I think Baker has a 10 cent head and he's gonna struggle with JMcD's system. Polk likely will have a huge turnaround, huge being a relative turn. He starts at zero. He's been horrible with horrible coaching. Now he will at least be coached well, and may be a capable NFL receiver. I don't think he is ever going to be great, but he may be a serviceable NFL player. Boutte has a real opportunity to shine here now, as does Pop, knowing how slot WRs excel in this system. To your point, Gibson is already here, so the role of James White / Kevin Faulk is filled.

They are already better. Get two WRs to bolster the room and fix the line, and they'll be a professional NFL offense.
Agreed. Baker has real talent and abilities. As you mentioned immaturity is the only thing that can hold him back.. what's odd is he and and polk both had great training camps even both make plays against Gonzo. I believe the coach aspect affect thier growth more than anything.. allegedly Josh is running a system that fits Drake and his abilities and not trying to fit square peg in a round hole.. that's where the Patriots used to go wrong with WR'S. Growth is all we need from the younger guys.. Gibson is one of the best all around backs in the league as far as his skills set. He's a former college WR and has an ability to be IMO an all pro caliber player under Josh. I think there are some players that may not be here soon.. I'd keep my eye on rham, Tavai to name a few.
 
Agreed. Baker has real talent and abilities. As you mentioned immaturity is the only thing that can hold him back.. what's odd is he and and polk both had great training camps even both make plays against Gonzo. I believe the coach aspect affect thier growth more than anything.. allegedly Josh is running a system that fits Drake and his abilities and not trying to fit square peg in a round hole.. that's where the Patriots used to go wrong with WR'S. Growth is all we need from the younger guys.. Gibson is one of the best all around backs in the league as far as his skills set. He's a former college WR and has an ability to be IMO an all pro caliber player under Josh. I think there are some players that may not be here soon.. I'd keep my eye on rham, Tavai to name a few.
I think the problem of developing WRs in NE was a multi-headed problem: Bill's scoring system of WRs coming out, valuing coachability over athleticism, JMcDs system geared to run at a Tom Brady level, and Brady's late career lack of patience with young guys not being able to keep up. Now, to your point, it's set to be run at Maye's level, and everyone starts at the ground floor.
 
Baker needs to get his **** together, or we'll be reading about some dumb **** in the morning news...
 
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