N’Keal Harry Requests Trade

[TomPatriot]

It's a fair point.

Let's take our chances at a guy who failed repeatedly 3 times (Denver 2010, St Louis 2011, Pats 2019) , a guy who multiple times has led League Worst teams in the past: Josh McDaniels.

You can argue that he isn’t a great OC. But drafting? Idk. That’s on Bill, I think.

 

[‘Mondre]

Because Tommy Boy was a pouty prima donna in 2019. Instead of letting Meyers go through normal rookie growing pains, he essentially banished him to the sidelines because of a couple of incorrect routes and drops, after refusing to publicly support him during press conferences. The Jakobi Meyers of late season 2019 could likely have been as productive as the 2020 version, if he had been given a fair chance by his QB. That Jakobi definitely could have helped them in the divisional round vs. Tenn but Brady had his guys on the field, culminating in a pathetic 20/37, 209, 0, 1 stat line and an embarrassing loss.

Now bring on the wagons, to circle around Professor Concussion Water/Immune Booster. I’m sure that several outraged posters will be sprinting over from the Brady forum because I “disrespected” the GOAT.

im right there with ya buddy but I gotta let that hurt go. He’s not a patriot again till he puts the red jacket on.

 

[scott99]

The same as your anti-Trump stuff.

Mine is well warranted.

 

[scott99]

They can actually can draft, during periods that don't include the current OC. We got Deion Branch, David Givens, Edelman, Gronk, Edelman, Hernandez during 2001-2004 and 2009-2012 which carried the offenses. It's during 2005-2008 and 2013-now that we bust on draft picks like Chad Jackson, Laurence Maroney, Aaron Dobson, NKeal Harry, and Michel.

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DKF=NEM

NEM: Weiss is horrible ! Pats won 3 SBs with him.
DKF: McDaniels is horrible ! Pats won 3 SBs with him.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Mine is well warranted.

Of course. Must be nice.

 

[jah]

Of course. Must be nice.

"You think Trump is bad, which makes me more correct about my Josh McDaniels conspiracy theory."

 

[scott99]

Of course. Must be nice.

It’s extremely nice. I’m not delusional.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Wins and championships come partially as a product of how you draft.

The vast majority of NE Patriots fans don't follow or critique the draft or player movement. But they do follow wins and championships. So if the draft and player acquisitions leave a fan frustrated then they can chose to ignore that aspect and still be a fan.

I am sure you understand. Avoiding things that frustrate you to have a simpler, happier life is a basic, but sometimes overlooked, point. I was not commenting on anything further - if my comment was more complicated it would be self conflicting.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

It’s extremely nice. I’m not delusional.

I do not know you but note that is a common response from someone who is lost in their own mind.

 

[scott99]

I do not know you but note that is a common response from someone who is lost in their own mind.

Everyone is insane to a certain degree. I have no problems stating my insanity or sanity, my levels of either are quite average compared to most people. That being said, I do not suffer from delusions, therefore my response. I have a healthy grasp on reality.

BTW, everyone is “lost in THEIR own mind”. Otherwise, you’d be schizophrenic.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Everyone is insane to a certain degree. I have no problems stating my insanity or sanity, my levels of either are quite average compared to most people. That being said, I do not suffer from delusions, therefore my response. I have a healthy grasp on reality.

BTW, everyone is “lost in THEIR own mind”. Otherwise, you’d be schizophrenic.

Nahhh…sounds like someone’s just trying to gaslight you because you hit a nerve going after THEIR hero.

 

[scott99]

Nahhh…sounds like someone’s just trying to gaslight you because you hit a nerve going after THEIR hero.

THEIR hero lol, how embarrassing for THEM. And I didn’t even bring their hero up, that’s the funny thing.

 

[stcjones]

DKF=NEM

NEM: Weiss is horrible ! Pats won 3 SBs with him.
DKF: McDaniels is horrible ! Pats won 3 SBs with him.

Pats won in spite of McD if we are being honest

 

[stcjones]

No matter how much homers or blowhards hate it the truth is in 3 seasons without Thomas Brady, McDaniels did the following:

2010: lost 10 straight and fired in Denver. So many draft disasters and bad trades there are multiple Bronco fan sites and all they do is hate on the guy. No TE production at all.
2011: League worst (32nd out of 32) NFL offense for the St Louis Rams. Only 12 points per game. No TE production at all.
2020: We all know how bad last year was. Again league worst TE production. A boatload of excuses not unlike the 2011 and 2010 excuses. Even with Tom in 2019 who checked out after AB was cut, the offense only averaged 17 points per game from Halloween till end of season. Brady carried his whole coaching career till Brady said F it.

But please reply, happy to go in-depth over draft debacles from 2005-2008 and 2013-now especially on the offensive side of the ball, not unlike a drunk sailor making the same disastrous trades and draft picks at Denver from 2009-2010.

McDaniels sucks and blows…..but we are stuck with him because he did one of the worst FU’s in history of American sports….guy is a pariah to the rest of the league. He is an average OC….not HC material…..that’s it

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

im right there with ya buddy but I gotta let that hurt go. He’s not a patriot again till he puts the red jacket on.

 

[lancerman]

No matter how much homers or blowhards hate it the truth is in 3 seasons without Thomas Brady, McDaniels did the following:

2010: lost 10 straight and fired in Denver. So many draft disasters and bad trades there are multiple Bronco fan sites and all they do is hate on the guy. No TE production at all.
2011: League worst (32nd out of 32) NFL offense for the St Louis Rams. Only 12 points per game. No TE production at all.
2020: We all know how bad last year was. Again league worst TE production. A boatload of excuses not unlike the 2011 and 2010 excuses. Even with Tom in 2019 who checked out after AB was cut, the offense only averaged 17 points per game from Halloween till end of season. Brady carried his whole coaching career till Brady said F it.

But please reply, happy to go in-depth over draft debacles from 2005-2008 and 2013-now especially on the offensive side of the ball, not unlike a drunk sailor making the same disastrous trades and draft picks at Denver from 2009-2010.

I'm not a fna of this reasoning. By that logic Bill Belichick coached 8 full season without Brady and only made the playoffs once and had losing seasons 5 out of 7 times, only 1 playoff win, and has a 62-72 record.

Having a good QB is kinda required in this league.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

DKF=NEM

NEM: Weiss is horrible ! Pats won 3 SBs with him.
DKF: McDaniels is horrible ! Pats won 3 SBs with him.

We have a few posters here that fall in the "Make A Wish" category. They're just lucky Ian is a nice guy and lets them keep coming back.

I actually don't mind a good troll but DKF is just boring. Clearly not the sharpest knife in the draw either. Reading some of his post will give you seizures.

 

[Patsgofor4]

No matter how much homers or blowhards hate it the truth is in 3 seasons without Thomas Brady, McDaniels did the following:

2010: lost 10 straight and fired in Denver. So many draft disasters and bad trades there are multiple Bronco fan sites and all they do is hate on the guy. No TE production at all.
2011: League worst (32nd out of 32) NFL offense for the St Louis Rams. Only 12 points per game. No TE production at all.
2020: We all know how bad last year was. Again league worst TE production. A boatload of excuses not unlike the 2011 and 2010 excuses. Even with Tom in 2019 who checked out after AB was cut, the offense only averaged 17 points per game from Halloween till end of season. Brady carried his whole coaching career till Brady said F it.

But please reply, happy to go in-depth over draft debacles from 2005-2008 and 2013-now especially on the offensive side of the ball, not unlike a drunk sailor making the same disastrous trades and draft picks at Denver from 2009-2010.

I get your point, and don’t entirely disagree with you. This is a big prove-it year for JMD as well. You just don’t have to beat us over the head with it over and over again, though. We got it the first five times.

Maybe move onto your next victim or, gasp, post something positive about the upcoming season. Having a positive outlook/opinion on some players or the season in general does not make someone a “homer“. This site has had an unbelievable explosion of curmudgeons over the past two years, who only seem happy when they are complaining or bashing. I don’t get it.

 

[50-yard-line]

I get your point, and don’t entirely disagree with you. This is a big prove-it year for JMD as well. You just don’t have to beat us over the head with it over and over again, though. We got it the first five times.

Maybe move onto your next victim or, gasp, post something positive about the upcoming season. Having a positive outlook/opinion on some players or the season in general does not make someone a “homer“. This site has had an unbelievable explosion of curmudgeons over the past two years, who only seem happy when they are complaining or bashing. I don’t get it.

A big part of why entertainers (athletes, writers, actors, directors, video game makers) get paid is because they give miserable people a reason to ***** and whine.

 

[Triumph]

McDaniels sucks and blows…..but we are stuck with him because he did one of the worst FU’s in history of American sports….guy is a pariah to the rest of the league. He is an average OC….not HC material…..that’s it

McD is the Pats HC when BB calls it done.

I do not expect it to go well at all.