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  1. robertweathers

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    He would come back at a pro-rated amount from his previous cap $ -$2m dead cap which is $9,859,375/ 16 = $616, 210.93 a game.

    I can't see them paying him $600k a game.
     
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    so this is not something that can be negotiated?
     
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    I think so. IIUC, if Gronk returns the 2019 scheduled cap hit come back at a prorated basis. So if he came back after Game 8, the NEP would be charged $4,929,687. What I'm not 100% sure of is can they redo his deal and pay him like $3m for 8 games and/or guarantee some of it and push that to 2020?

    Financially they can make it work. Just not sure what they'd be willing to do or what Gronk would be willing to play for.
     
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    If they expect a big impact for 8 games plus playoffs and they have the cap room (which they will have), why not?
     
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    I don't disagree.

    At this point I don't think much has changed with Gronk. I think he still needs a break from the pounding and the BB system. He also won't take a huge pay cut or play somewhere else.

    Maybe $4m for 6-8 games gets it done? Not bad for ~2 months work. I'm pretty confident he can put on 10-15 lbs in a month and get in game shape. He seems like hes still working out and doing cardio. Just not doing the powerlifting/bulk adding work.
     
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    He officially retired. That is what he is really thinking.

    We do not know of his current health status but we do know of his history of injuries.

    When has he ridden the fence?

    Playing catch at a charity event does not serve as evidence that he is coming back to play full contact football.

    It is some fans and various members of the media continue to circulate rumors that he will come back.
     
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    What does it even mean to "officially retire"? Announce his retirement? Gimme a break. Has he signed his retirement papers? Of course, those aren't exactly irrevocable either.
     
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    U serious with that statement?
     
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    Yes

    Eating cat litter again.
     
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    I can usually tell if he's smoking the catnip again .....
     
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    Him and the Small Engine Mechanic are running together these days.
     
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    Again, just the other day Gronk was evasive and vague about playing again.

    He said that he is "enjoying retirement" and that "I said what I said about the matter"

    NO emphatic "I am not going back" NO reaffirming "You wont see Rob Gronkowski playing in the NFL again"
     
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    Fans are going to take what Gronk says and use it to support their own belief.

    The simple fact is Gronk has not once said he is not playing in 2019. It doesn't mean he is, it means he hasn't said he isn't.

    There certainly is the element of Gronk just trolling ,being a flake or clinging to ways of staying relevant because he knows once he says he's done....it's over
     
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    Wrong. When did he officially retire?
     
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    Yep. I don't recall any reports which say Gronk has filed his retirement papers with the league office.

    The only thing that has occurred is the NEP have placed Gronk on the Reserve/Retired list. They can remove him from the list at any point.
     
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    Obviously.
     
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    It's not cheating if you follow the rules. This reminds me of Jim Harbaugh crying about the Patriots cheating when running the "Baltimore" and "Raven" plays (where eligible players declared themselves ineligible yet lined up in positions very similar as to when they were eligible) in the (2014?) playoffs. Just doing what's legal. If you don't like it, change the rules. Which they did - after Harbough started trying to imitate the Patriots. :)

    In this case, I don't even think the Patriots or Gronk are trying to manipulate anything. It just may work out in the Patriots favor.

    For the record, I don't believe Gronk is coming back.
     

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