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Midseason Thoughts on Chad Ryland So Far

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Of course now it looks like the bad move, but I can’t remember many posters here being upset in the offseason that we replaced Folk with a rookie.
 
Yeah, this new numbering system looks so clunky. But even some reliable vets are choosing distinctly un-kicker-like jersey numbers.... blame college
 
He's smarter than everybody else.

 
4 un-drafted kickers to replace the one you spent multiple picks to move up to get in the 4th round so you can save a few bucks to pay to Slater to allow Matthew to run away from contact.
Checkers vs chess.
 
It's way too early to give up on Ryland.
I think Ryland can blossom. he was taken for the next 3-5 years, not for this year only.
Folk obviously year to year.
Agreed. I loved Folk, but he's on his last leg (cough, cough). If we had a shot at the Super Bowl, it's different. This is a good season for a kicker to develop (although we're rarely in position to kick a field goal). We know kickers are a strange breed. He's got the leg. We can afford to be patient. If he does pan out, we're set for a decade.
 
Chad Ryland is kicking 70% FG this year. His whole season has been a struggle session.

In comparison Nick Folk made 86% of his kicks for the Patriots last season.

And for reference in 2023, Folk has been on fire making 21 of 22 kicks for the Titans for a 95% FG accuracy and made all of his PATs as a bonus.

This decision by BB looks almost as bad as replacing Jakobi Meyers with JSS.

What a WASTE of a pick! We could have bundled that 4th rounder with something else to move up for an OT to help the offense.

Instead BB replaces a kicker that didn't need replacing with someone even WORSE!

Nick Folk stats: Nick Folk Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Ryland stats: Chad Ryland Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Nick Folk could no longer be called on to kick off. Are you forgetting last year's fiasco with that? It's in black & white in his Wiki entry:

Following the placement of Patriots punter Jake Bailey on injured reserve, Folk became the Patriots’ main kickoff
specialist. Folk struggled handling kickoffs as he allowed 3 kickoff returns for touchdowns, one against the Minnesota
Vikings and two in a crucial week 18 game against the Buffalo Bills. This resulted in the Patriots elevating practice
squad placekicker Tristan Vizcaino during the season, and drafting Maryland kicker Chad Ryland in the 2023 NFL Draft.
 
4 un-drafted kickers to replace the one you spent multiple picks to move up to get in the 4th round so you can save a few bucks to pay to Slater to allow Matthew to run away from contact.


except they brought in 2 punters, two......and Baringer has been solid......they are kicking the tires, doing due diligence.......Ryland is kicking like a rookie, his kickoffs have been fine.....not reading into it this much
 
Nick Folk is kicking 95% on his FGs this year. That could make a difference in close games.

What's even worse is BB wasting draft picks on an even worse kicker when he didn't need to and could have helped another area of the team instead.
A 4th rounder at that. Could have just kept big kick nick and got a guy next season. Just another blunder on top of blunders.. but I'm embracing it all.. this is what it takes for the organization to make serious changes.
 

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Seriously the fact that we drafted a kicker in round 5 who was very likely to go completely undrafted and then had to deal with off field controversy for him to never play is such a late term Belichick move it hurts. Also the fact that afterwards nobody else in the league found him remotely worth taking a look at...
 
Nick Folk could no longer be called on to kick off. Are you forgetting last year's fiasco with that? It's in black & white in his Wiki entry:

Following the placement of Patriots punter Jake Bailey on injured reserve, Folk became the Patriots’ main kickoff
specialist. Folk struggled handling kickoffs as he allowed 3 kickoff returns for touchdowns, one against the Minnesota
Vikings and two in a crucial week 18 game against the Buffalo Bills. This resulted in the Patriots elevating practice
squad placekicker Tristan Vizcaino during the season, and drafting Maryland kicker Chad Ryland in the 2023 NFL Draft.
That right folks, Nick Folk allowed 3 kickoff return TDs
Not Special Teams coach Cam Achord
Not any of the fleet of overpaid gunners and ST specialists who are tasked with tackling kick returners

Note: Nick Folk and Tennessee have given up 0 kickoff return TDs this season (same as NE)

Note 2.0: Tennessee has allowed 5th most kickoff returns (19) while NE has allowed (12) in 2023

Note 3.0: Tennessee gives up 21.8 yds/kickoff return while NE gives up 23.4 yds/return

Note 4.0: Nick Folk averages 5.8 FG points/game in 2023, Chad Ryland averages 3.3 FG pts/game
 
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Nick Folk could no longer be called on to kick off. Are you forgetting last year's fiasco with that? It's in black & white in his Wiki entry:

Following the placement of Patriots punter Jake Bailey on injured reserve, Folk became the Patriots’ main kickoff
specialist. Folk struggled handling kickoffs as he allowed 3 kickoff returns for touchdowns, one against the Minnesota
Vikings and two in a crucial week 18 game against the Buffalo Bills.

This resulted in the Patriots elevating practice
squad placekicker Tristan Vizcaino during the season, and drafting Maryland kicker Chad Ryland in the 2023 NFL Draft.
 


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