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You know it's funny. When watching film on both Cooks and Dorsett last season I liked Dorsett better as an all around receiver which included blocking etc....

I'm glad to hear he's somewhere within the Brady's circle of trust because if they can get on the same page it could be an awesome deep threat combo.

He seems to have good hands and has made a few contested catches during the limited opportunities he had. IIRC, a few of those contested catches were because Brady under threw him due to a lack of continuity (or something) but again if he and Brady on the same page, wow.

Anyway, I think this could be a big season for him. Maybe not in yards or TD's but in impact.

Now that's just me watching film so take that for what it's worth.

One thing to remember, esp on 50/50 balls. The WR has to adjust & make it work at times as well.
Sometimes they'll practice highpointing or bodying a DB out of the play so depending on the specific play it could be the WR not making the proper adjustments.
 
Another draft bust.

Besides Branch and Given,s when has a NE drafted a WR actually worked out? Andelman was a QB who was developed into a slot WR to replace Welker. Slater is only special teams.

Name me a drafted college WR who has stuck on this team?

Adding one player certainly doesn't give us a good track record of drafting WRs but don't pretend Edelman doesn't count because he was a QB in college. He didn't switch positions in the middle of the season, he was never going to be anything but a WR here.
 
You can have all the talent in the world but if you aren’t tough or durable it doesn’t matter at all. He helped us win a Super Bowl, so I’ll define his career here as a success too.

Toughness and durability are two vastly different things. The fact that his body cannot hold up to professional sports is not a reflection on his toughness.
 
One thing to remember, esp on 50/50 balls. The WR has to adjust & make it work at times as well.
Sometimes they'll practice highpointing or bodying a DB out of the play so depending on the specific play it could be the WR not making the proper adjustments.

So I'm going to throw some Dorsett plays together in the next couple of days and put them up in a thread. I'll put my thoughts up for discussion purposes and to see where others may think otherwise. Should be fun.
 
Fire wr scout
Honestly has their been any position in all of the NFL that has been given the least amount of home grown talent?
Who picked Deion Branch?
Where is that scout?

I got one for you.

 
So I'm going to throw some Dorsett plays together in the next couple of days and put them up in a thread. I'll put my thoughts up for discussion purposes and to see where others may think otherwise. Should be fun.

Get some good blocking plays too. And see if the Bellestrator highlights anything
 
Truth is Malcolm Mitchell had a better than average career for a 4th round pick. He will be paid for 3 seasons and was able to contribute to the greatest comeback in SB history. That’s not bad for a 4th rounder.

There's no vet guarantee for players on rookie deals.

It’s amusing when people talk about how poor the Pats are at drafting and developing WRs. They’ve never drafted one on the 1st round in the Belichick era that I can remember. Three in the 2nd round. One was a bust, one never could stay healthy,but the last was a SB MVP. Maybe, we should give them credit for drafting David Givens and Julian Edelman in the 7 round and having each start for two SB winning teams.

It just feels like they should be capable of better, though.
 
Another draft bust.

Besides Branch and Given,s when has a NE drafted a WR actually worked out? Andelman was a QB who was developed into a slot WR to replace Welker. Slater is only special teams.

Name me a drafted college WR who has stuck on this team?

************. His name is ****ing Edleman. Who was drafted specifically to be a WR. And no, a fourth round WR who plays a pivotal role in winning a SB in rookie year is not a bust, no matter how badly you want to stretch his unfortunate knee injury to make it seem so.

Don't be an idiot.
 
Toughness and durability are two vastly different things. The fact that his body cannot hold up to professional sports is not a reflection on his toughness.

I think he showed his toughness in the SB. There are a few plays where I'm pretty sure he was hurt and gutted it through. On one of the sideline catches he was slow getting up and I think the referee started to help him get up IIRC.
 
Back to Malcolm Mitchell for a moment. His farewell "tweet" emphasizes the fact that he is and will always be a world champion.


You never know - maybe he will heal up and regain some quickness some day.
 
Another draft bust.

Besides Branch and Given,s when has a NE drafted a WR actually worked out? Andelman was a QB who was developed into a slot WR to replace Welker. Slater is only special teams.

Name me a drafted college WR who has stuck on this team?

Pittsburgh could put names on a dart board and hit on a stud blindfolded.

You may not like what he says, but can you really argue without being a homer? These are their highest picks, and while Edelman turned out to be good, it took a long time, it almost wasn’t to be, and I could include a long list of late rounders as well.

-Bethel Johnson
-Chad Jackson
-Taylor Price
-Aaron Dobson
-Josh Boyce
-Malcolm Mitchell (though the injury risk has been well covered)

As @Triumph stated, you need to go back to Givens and Branch to find guys that made any type of contributions and weren’t complete disasters.

I’ll say this though: I think the Patriots are very reluctant to draft a WR high because they have no idea how these guys will adapt to a very complicated offense, so there’s a greater bust potential that these physically gifted freaks in the first/early second round will just be wasted talents since they can’t grasp the mental game. Brady is a perfectionist and very demanding quarterback. I think Chad Jackson really made them pause and reevaluate.

Fortunately, they’ve solved this problem throughout the years by identifying undervalued talent around the league and made some great free agent signings, buying low and getting huge returns. Welker and Hogan are the best examples. Amendola is another, though he didn’t come cheap.

As for Pittsburgh, it really is a different system with more of a schoolyard offense. Despite the great WRs, they often have a middling offense because they turn the ball over way more than the Patriots and have a ton of “bust” games where nothing works. Their offense is really inflexible and dependent on the defense, whereas the Patriots are more adaptive and require more versatility and intelligence from their players. The Patriots offense is always better than the Steelers offense - they score more points, lay fewer duds, and turn the ball over way less. So, there is certainly a price the Steelers pay in their love for athleticism and highlight reel receivers. You may also want to consider that Burress, Holmes, Wallace, and Brown are also selfish turds with huge egos, with Brown’s surprising reveal coming last year while seething after a win that he didn’t get the ball enough and constantly *****ing about everything that wasn’t designed around padding his stats...but that’s just what they got on camera. I imagine he’s a real team guy when those locker room doors are closed (smirk.)
 
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The way I see it drafting is just one avenue to roster building and finding undervalued guys via FA (or RFAs like Hogan or the offer to Sanders) is another legit way to do it.

To me it is easier to project players where you have NFL level tape than kids coming out of college. Especially with an intricate offense as the BB/Josh version of EP. And even then -- with all the tape in the world -- you still end up with players that are not total fits like Cooks last year.

Hell look at the Texans who are running a cousin of our offense. They have had Hopkins before BoB came on board but since then sucked even more at drafting offensive players.

Fiederorowicz, Braxton Miller, Will Fuller.. Jaelen Strong?
 
Adding one player certainly doesn't give us a good track record of drafting WRs but don't pretend Edelman doesn't count because he was a QB in college. He didn't switch positions in the middle of the season, he was never going to be anything but a WR here.

IIRC, even BB wasn't originally sure what position Edelman would end up playing for the Pats. Immediately post-draft, when he was asked about drafting a "QB", BB said something to the effect that he'd drafted "a football player", and that he'd try Edelman at a number of different things and "see how it goes".

"WR" may have been on the card that went up to the podium, but probably only because something needed to be filled in, and "football player" wasn't an option.
 
Fire wr scout
Honestly has their been any position in all of the NFL that has been given the least amount of home grown talent?
Who picked Deion Branch?
Where is that scout?

During BB's tenure with the Pats, the other 31 teams have drafted something like half-again as many WRs, on average, including at least two in the 1st round. BB's success rate isn't significantly below average on drafting WRs, especially considering how late the Pats typically draft in each round. Because he's drafted significantly fewer WRs than most other teams, he has fewer "hits" to show for it. And fans tend to compare the raw quantity of "hits" without taking into account the context.
 
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