Patriots Injury News Mack Hollins Nearing Return?

[Steve102]

 

[imahobgoblin]

Which means they'll go there at the very last minute and play the game before symptoms start to kick in.

Have you ever even been in that kind of altitude? It does not work that way. The air is thinner so that the body struggles to get enough oxygen into the bloodstream. It happens as soon as they get off the plane. The answer is oxygen on the sidelines. Eat iron-rich foods. Avoid alcohol/caffeine. Rest as much as possible. Regardless, they will still be exhausted in the second half.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Eat iron-rich foods.

Takes about a week to make new red blood cells. So that's a longer-term solution.

Cyclists sleep in low-oxygen tents at night - that lets them train at lower altitudes and still make more hemoglobin. That beats training at altitude. Or there are now pills (HIF-1 alpha stabilizers, on the market in China for treating anemia) that do the same thing. One of the drugs the anti-doping folks now check for.

 

[sb1]

Have you ever even been in that kind of altitude? It does not work that way. The air is thinner so that the body struggles to get enough oxygen into the bloodstream. It happens as soon as they get off the plane. The answer is oxygen on the sidelines. Eat iron-rich foods. Avoid alcohol/caffeine. Rest as much as possible. Regardless, they will still be exhausted in the second half.

I think some of the effects of playing in Denver have to be psychological instead of physical.


I've been to the top of Haleakala in Maui at 10K ft which is about a half mile higher in altitude than Denver. It was cold up there for Hawaii and I felt a bit short of breath without even playing football but I think part of that was all in the mind. I don't blame the Broncos for putting up signs like this at Mile High. I would too.

 

[PatsFan2]

I think the beer is colder at the stadium and the price of eggs is lower when Hollins is active

Got jokes AJ.

 

[Nikolai]

Not saying it doesn't mean anything, but I posted earlier that I benefited from going high altitude to low altitude, but I also did the inverse, going from Bragg or Benning (more or less close to sea level) out to Fort Huachuca, which is around 4800 feet. I suppose I noticed some difference on longer runs the first week or so, but it's not that crazy if you're in good shape.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Like I mentioned earlier, hydration has a huge impact. Whenever folks come to visit I always recommend they consume large amounts of water for several days PRIOR to getting on that plane. Also try to cut back on drinking alcohol while you are here. I had the absolute worst hangovers for years here before I figured out it was the altitude making it worse. If you do drink make sure to mix in a water or two with every drink.

We try to hang in town with guest for a day or so before taking them into the mountains. Altitude sickness is no joke. Folks have died while vacationing at Breck. for example. Our friends had it while at 10k feet. We immediately packed up the truck and returned to Denver (5280). They recovered and felt better. Not something to play around with.

 

[PatsFan2]

I think some of the effects of playing in Denver have to be psychological instead of physical.


I've been to the top of Haleakala in Maui at 10K ft which is about a half mile higher in altitude than Denver. It was cold up there for Hawaii and I felt a bit short of breath without even playing football but I think part of that was all in the mind. I don't blame the Broncos for putting up signs like this at Mile High. I would too.

It didn't affect the Jaguars who whooped em'.

 

[imahobgoblin]

Takes about a week to make new red blood cells. So that's a longer-term solution.

Cyclists sleep in low-oxygen tents at night - that lets them train at lower altitudes and still make more hemoglobin. That beats training at altitude. Or there are now pills (HIF-1 alpha stabilizers, on the market in China for treating anemia) that do the same thing. One of the drugs the anti-doping folks now check for.

No kidding. Nothing I said contradicts that. Have you ever even been in high altitude? We spend time in a mile high cabin for 3 weeks a year. The Patriots are flying out on Saturday just lie normal. Cyclists, pills, and China have nothing to do with out team. They will have O2 on the sideline. Perhaps some IVs during half time. The will watch their diet. Thats all they can do.

 

[fnordcircle]

SO IS MACK COMING BACK OR WHAT

 

[shmessy]

It is the single biggest UNFAIR advantage in the NFL, period. Is it any wonder Denver has so many of those "4th quarter come backs" they are touted with. Mental toughness and oxygen tanks help, but it is what it is. Usually, teams hope to get a lead and hold on for dear life.

Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do about it except force them to move the franchise someplace at sea level or abouts. Since that's not happening, I am refusing to feel even remotely bad for Denver's injury luck. **** 'em. They are saying "SCREW you" to the rest of the league EVERY time they have a home game.

.....and the Patriots were hit with a $1 million fine, Brady was expelled from the league for 4 games, draft picks were taken away.......because footballs lose pressure in cold/wet conditions like our car tires do each year.

**** the NFL and their "Integrity of the Game" baloney.

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[Clonamery]

Have you ever even been in that kind of altitude? It does not work that way. The air is thinner so that the body struggles to get enough oxygen into the bloodstream. It happens as soon as they get off the plane. The answer is oxygen on the sidelines. Eat iron-rich foods. Avoid alcohol/caffeine. Rest as much as possible. Regardless, they will still be exhausted in the second half.

He's talking about when to arrive to help with performance, not the things that will be used to stayed hydrated, oxygenated, etc., during the game.

 

[RobertWeathers]

.....and the Patriots were hit with a $1 million fine, Brady was expelled from the league for 4 games, draft picks were taken away.......because footballs lose pressure in cold/wet conditions liek our car tires do each year.

**** the NFL and their "Integrity of the Game" baloney.

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Joker agrees from heaven.

 

[PP2]

Have you ever even been in that kind of altitude? It does not work that way. The air is thinner so that the body struggles to get enough oxygen into the bloodstream. It happens as soon as they get off the plane. The answer is oxygen on the sidelines. Eat iron-rich foods. Avoid alcohol/caffeine. Rest as much as possible. Regardless, they will still be exhausted in the second half.

Literally every sports college and pro teams try to do this: come to Denver at the last minute, play their game, and get out before symptoms kick in.

And I have been to Denver many times. And Aspen.

 

[PlainOldEd]

I think some of the effects of playing in Denver have to be psychological instead of physical.


I've been to the top of Haleakala in Maui at 10K ft which is about a half mile higher in altitude than Denver. It was cold up there for Hawaii and I felt a bit short of breath without even playing football but I think part of that was all in the mind. I don't blame the Broncos for putting up signs like this at Mile High. I would too.

Me too. I jogged from the parking lot to the sunrise viewing area (about 150 feet) and did feel a little short of breath/dizzy. I don't think it was psycological, but also, as you said, it is twice the altitude and I am far from a professional athlete.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Anyone else noticed the Bills running on and off the field because of the altitude? This was why White tapped out on that final drive in the 4th quarter, probably couldn't breathe.

 

[n1997y]

Me too. I jogged from the parking lot to the sunrise viewing area (about 150 feet) and did feel a little short of breath/dizzy. I don't think it was psycological, but also, as you said, it is twice the altitude and I am far from a professional athlete.

Same here, on top of Pikes Peak. Over 14000’ and I was much younger. It was certainly not psychological.

 

[PlainOldEd]

Did I read that cyclists (or some other endurance athletes) get blood transfusions to allow for more O2 absorbtion? Idk if it is true, or if it works, but even if it is nd does, and is legal, there is still an aspect of psycology to doing it... If you try too hard to mitigate the situation you are in effect validating the seriousness of the situation.

 

[n1997y]

As a pilot I’m required to use supplemental oxygen if I’m flying above 10,000’ for more than 30 minutes.

That’s twice the altitude of Denver, but it’s not a very long time, and I’m not engaged in any strenuous physical activity. It shows how quickly cognitive processing and things like vision are affected.

 

[Dec54]

Did I read that cyclists (or some other endurance athletes) get blood transfusions to allow for more O2 absorbtion? Idk if it is true, or if it works, but even if it is nd does, and is legal, there is still an aspect of psycology to doing it... If you try too hard to mitigate the situation you are in effect validating the seriousness of the situation.

My wife and I flew into Denver from London. I had no ill effects at all, but she suffered at first headache, tired etc. So everyone is different it seems, including the players perhaps. But there again we weren't running around.
Although some guy tried to pick me up in the hotel bar.