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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.My first inclination is the brains on the list are Adams, Borges, Guregian, Lynch and Tippett.Here is the list of the Committee Members. Not sure if this will help as they may have already had their nomination meeting, but here is some contact info. From my experience Chris Price and Mike Reiss are the two most likely to respond, and most open to suggestions - so anybody that cares to lobby for Julius Adams may want to start there. I'll attempt to fill in the blanks when I have more time.
Chris Price:
Boston Globe
Twitter: @cpriceglobe | Email: [email protected]
Mike Reiss:
ESPN
Twitter: @MikeReiss | Email:
Joe Amorosino:
WHDH Channel 7
Twitter: @joeamorosino | Email:
Ernie Adams:
Football staff
?
Ron Borges:
Formerly of the Boston Herald and Boston Globe
Twitter: @RonBorges | Email:
Bill Burt:
Lawrence Eagle Tribune
Twitter: @BurtTalksSports | Email:
Steve Burton:
WBZ Channel 4
Twitter: @STEVEBURTONWBZ
Marc Cappello:
98.5 The Sports Hub
Twitter: @Pats_Radio
Tom Curran:
NBC Sports Boston
Twitter: @tomecurran
Jim Donaldson:
Retired from the Providence Journal
Twitter: @JimDonaldsonJr
Mark Farinella:
Retired from the Attleboro Sun Chronicle
Twitter: @FarinellaMark
Glen Farley:
Retired from the Brockton Enterprise
?
Karen Guregian:
Boston Herald
Twitter: @kguregian | Email: [email protected]
John Hendry:
Patriots game day statistics
?
Ron Hobson:
Retired from the Quincy Patriot Ledger
?
Fred Kirsch:
Patriots Football Network
Twitter: @Fred_Kirsch | Email: [email protected]
Mike Lynch:
WCVB Channel 5
Twitter: @LynchieWCVB
Jim McBride:
Boston Globe
Twitter: @globejimmcbride | Email: [email protected]
Bryan Morry:
The Patriots Hall of Fame presented by Raytheon Technologies
Twitter: @BryanMorry
Paul Perillo:
Patriots Football Network
Twitter: @pfwpaul
Phil Perry:
NBCSports Boston
Twitter: @PhilAPerry
John Rooke:
PA Announcer
Twitter: @JRbroadcaster
Matt Smith:
Kraft Sports and Entertainment
?
Bob Socci:
Radio play-by-play
Twitter: @BobSocci
Butch Stearns:
WFXT
Twitter: @ButchStearns
Andre Tippett:
Patriots Hall of Famer
Twitter: @AndreTippett
Howard Ulman:
Retired from the Associated Press
Twitter (seldom used): @hbulman
Chris Price is a guy that has come across to me as one that is very open to Pats/sports history, even though it happened before he saw it first hand.My first inclination is the brains on the list are Adams, Borges, Guregian, Lynch and Tippett.
McBride and Burton oughta be.
Would it be worth contacting the Patriots? Maybe Stacy James? Ask them for the contact information for the NE HoF Committee?Chris Price is a guy that has come across to me as one that is very open to Pats/sports history, even though it happened before he saw it first hand.
Borges is a guy that has been around for a long time, but I just don't know if we can put our faith in him to carry the torch.
Perhaps focusing on the retired writers is the best tactic; problem is, I don't know how to quickly contact them.
Good question.Would it be worth contacting the Patriots? Maybe Stacy James? Ask them for the contact information for the NE HoF Committee?
Maybe he would pass along what ever you have to the committee members?Good question.
While Stacey James does not have a voice in the nomination process, his stature as VP of Media Relations could conceivably have an effect. Our biggest problem is that there are so few days remaining to make our case to the committee members.
Those with a vote have been partial to Parcells in the past, which to me would be an abomination over Adams.
Well I'm experiencing most or all of the possible side effects of what turned out to be the double jaw surgery last Friday-Saturday. Had a blood clot hemorrhage that night and a way-too-small helmet brace in the ICU afterward. Got a pretty good bump on my head, and can't help thinking it was a Nordberg-type gurney mishap à la Naked Gun. They messed up the IV and my back's not in good shape. Not complaining, though!!I've got major surgery Friday morning so if I start posting afterwards about how I like and accept the flying elvis you'll know I didn't make it out of there with my marbles.
FIFY, tsk-tsk!!!Borges is a guy that has been around for a long time, but I just don't know if we can put our faith in him to carry the tourche.
Good question.
While Stacey James does not have a voice in the nomination process, his stature as VP of Media Relations could conceivably have an effect. Our biggest problem is that there are so few days remaining to make our case to the committee members.
Those with a vote have been partial to Parcells in the past, which to me would be an abomination over Adams.
Patriots' Owner Robert Kraft Suffers Severe Head TraumaMaybe he would pass along what ever you have to the committee members?
heaFrom what Mike Reiss is saying in his responses, the Patriots had promised Seymour an exclusive day (which he would have had last year), so perhaps there will be two (regular/senior) for 2022.
Look at the bright side: that gives us twelve months to convince the committee to get Julius Adams name on the 2022 ballot, or to amend the senior committee rules that exclude anybody from consideration that has not previously been on the regular ballot.
The committee failed by waiting too long multiple times. It is inexcusable that Jim Nance, Houston Antwine and Leon Gray all were denied the opportunity to enjoy that experience while they were still alive.Eisenhauer, Whalen, Tatupu, Adams, Stingley, Holovak and Fairbanks passed away. Chuck is the only one of them who currently qualifies as a veteran because he made the ballot once. Ron Burton and Fred Marion also made it on there once, but neither of them is as worthy as the others.
That leaves only Russ Francis from the 70's still here to experience the honor non-posthumously, if still belatedly. In my mind, this adds a genuine urgency to the consideration. He was one of the major stars without which we would simply not have competed, he's definitely better than Casper and I might take him over Gronk. Adams is by far the most glaring omission, but only we and his family are left to appreciate and experience the honor and recognition.
The way these things go, somebody gets hyped or exalted at just the right time or in just the right way just before the committee convenes, and they get nominated. There is no way Bruschi, Faulk, Harrison, Light or McGinest belong ahead of these older guys.
And next year these players become eligible: Vince Wilfork, Logan Mankins, Wes Welker and Lawyer Milloy, who all have impressive résumés with the Pats. No I wouldn't induct any of them ahead of the old guys.
Would it be worth contacting the Patriots? Maybe Stacy James? Ask them for the contact information for the NE HoF Committee?
Tom Curran, two weeks ago: [29:00] "I brought it up last week, and Stacey James goes, "No, no, no, Tom, not today. Not doing that today..."Good question.
While Stacey James does not have a voice in the nomination process, his stature as VP of Media Relations could conceivably have an effect. Our biggest problem is that there are so few days remaining to make our case to the committee members.
Those with a vote have been partial to Parcells in the past, which to me would be an abomination over Adams.
Tom Curran, two weeks ago: [29:00] "I brought it up last week, and Stacey James goes, "No, no, no, Tom, not today. Not doing that today..."
Talking life, health, and Patriots with Jeff Howe of The Athletic
Tom Curran talks with Jeff Howe about his recent health battle. They also debate who deserves to be inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame, and evaluate the Patriots' biggest needs heading into the draft. 1:00-Howe details his recent health battle 18:30-Patriots Hall of Fame nominee debate...art19.com
In their list of future candidates, they don't even mention Adam Vinatieri.
1970-1989 is twenty years; Pats joined the NFL in 1970.yeah, well, heres the thing... when you have 5x as many last place finishes vs 1st place finishes in a 20 year span ( '70-'90 ) the good seasons tend to be categorized as blips...
This is ridiculous. Forehead I can understand.in a decade dominated by the Patriots the Colts have Polian, Dungy, Manning, Harrison and James already in to only Law from the Patriots
Antwine is All-Time All-AFL, and should be in Canton. 11 years with Pats.The only Patriots in the hall who have played for the team for more than 7 seasons are Tippett, Hannah and Law.
Years with Patriots:The rule regarding being on the full ballot previously in order to have consideration by the senior committee needs to be eliminated. It is unnecessary and needlessly eliminates many worthy candidates like Julius Adams and Russ Francis from a chance of even being debated.
The problem is this.. 70-89, 20 years... 5 playoff appearances, 0-3 to start that all off... so it was easy to write the limited playoff appearances as an anomaly rather than the norm... we did not win a playoff game until 1985... (and dont tell me again about Ben Dreith and the bad calls... I know the story... but i also know we were up 10 with a quarter to go... ) the Patriots were sabotaged at every turn by the Sullivan Family... every time the Patriots had a chance to turn the corner and become a consistently competitive team, the Sullivans would throw a wrench into the works by pissing off a good coach and/or not signing players because they didn't (or is it couldn't?) want to pay the contract prices... players would option out, get their contracts sent to other teams... in an era of no free agency, we lost too many really effing good players because of them... they let so many talented players go... It pissed off the coaches, it pissed off the players... and to some degree it pissed off the league... all the while they tried to suck as much money out of the organization as the could... the foxboro stadium lease, that kraft ultimately leveraged to buy the team, was so onerous because when it was originally devised, the Sullivan family was greedily trying to pad their own pockets based on the terms of the "lease"1970-1989 is twenty years; Pats joined the NFL in 1970.
1st place finishes: 2........2 playoffs
2nd place finishes: 6......1 playoffs
3rd place finishes: 7.......2 playoffs
4th place finishes: 1
Last place finishes: 4
So, in the two decades, the Patriots
5 times made the playoffs
6 times finished 1 game out of the playoffs
2 times finished 2 games out of the playoffs
7 times finished more than 2 games out of the playoffs.
This period is bookended by poor 3-year runs, 1967-1969 (post-Parilli), and 1990-1992 (post-Flutie), which the media uses to pretend the team was a 'laughingstock' forever.
Meanwhile, the Steelers had 8 straight losing seasons before 1972, and the 49ers had 1 winning season (Plunkett) in 8 years before 1981, and neither was classified as a 'laughingstock'. I won't even bother with the Giants' and Bears' two decades of utter futility.
True.the gints? they made their bones in league history... in the 60's they lost what? almost 6 straight league championships? They were there every season... they didn't win the title, but chances were they were competing for it
They started out in 1933. No playoffs in 14 years. Then, one appearance (a loss) in 1947. Then another 24 years with no playoffs.i absolutely believe the stealers are overrated as a franchise and their players are given way too much deference in the HoF selection committees because of their "legacy" in that same span, 12 play off appearances, 6 conference championships, 4 super bowl titles...
Correct.Patriots were sabotaged at every turn by the Sullivan Family... every time the Patriots had a chance to turn the corner and become a consistently competitive team, the Sullivans would throw a wrench into the works by pissing off a good coach and/or not signing players because they didn't (or is it couldn't?) want to pay the contract prices... players would option out, get their contracts sent to other teams... in an era of no free agency, we lost too many really effing good players because of them... they let so many talented players go... It pissed off the coaches, it pissed off the players... and to some degree it pissed off the league... all the while they tried to such as much money out of the organization as the could...