NFL News League Filing Grievance Against Player’s Union Over Annual Surveys

[RobertWeathers]

Of course there is.
You don’t have to have a bias toward either side to have an opinion about the topic.

What you state doesn't exist in this thread.

 

[Ring 6]

What you state doesn't exist in this thread.

It does with me.

 

[Steve102]

There is no such thing as neutral on this issue.

You either believe the owners have the justification to squelch the NFLPA or they don't.

They can do whatever they want, as owners of a business. I know you know I feel this already, but there is no bigger, more greedy, more corrupt organization than the NFL. Anything that gives them a bad look they want shut down.

 

[RobertWeathers]

They can do whatever they want, as owners of a business. I know you know I feel this already, but there is no bigger, more greedy, more corrupt organization than the NFL. Anything that gives them a bad look they want shut down.

...and as we've seen the puppet state NFLPA as equally as corrupt. Their organization -while sometimes operates and negotiates with good intentions, are run by unethical, immature, weak-minded people.

 

[maust]

...and as we've seen the puppet state NFLPA as equally as corrupt. Their organization -while sometimes operates and negotiates with good intentions, are run by unethical, immature, weak-minded people.

The NFL Animal Farm analogy:
League/owners: Napoleon
Union leadership: Squealer
Mainstream Media: The Dogs
Players: The Horses
Fans: The Sheep

 

[Sect140]

I think any company owner would object to employees publicly criticize the company.

That might be true but a good owner will still provide surveys to its employees and have a team of people review those reviews. I’m sure some owners end up ignoring those reviews and some actually act on it.

 

[Sect140]

I don’t buy that. If Kraft cared about the fans opinions he would have handled a lot of things differently. Deflategate, hiring Mayo, fighting a media war to claim credit for the dynasty, etc etc

Thats good that you don’t buy it, I still buy it.

 

[Pape]

The NFL Animal Farm analogy:
League/owners: Napoleon
Union leadership: Squealer
Mainstream Media: The Dogs
Players: The Horses
Fans: The Sheep

That's so literally on target it's not even funny

 

[maust]

That's so literally on target it's not even funny

NGL I expected any reaction to that post being more of the 'Dude, you can read?' variety. Look at you exercising the ol' gray matter.
My man Pape, thinker of deep thoughts.

 

[Pape]

NGL I expected any reaction to that post being more of the 'Dude, you can read?' variety. Look at you exercising the ol' gray matter.
My man Pape, thinker of deep thoughts.

there is a wanna be napolean/squealer hybrid on this board... will let you be the judge

 

[Ring 6]

That might be true but a good owner will still provide surveys to its employees and have a team of people review those reviews. I’m sure some owners end up ignoring those reviews and some actually act on it.

The issue isn’t the survey, it’s airing the results publicly, which could also lead to tanking the survey to have more negatives to report. I seem to remember inconsistencies in the Patriots surveys.

 

[Sect140]

The issue isn’t the survey, it’s airing the results publicly, which could also lead to tanking the survey to have more negatives to report. I seem to remember inconsistencies in the Patriots surveys.

Should they not release cap space and what teams are spending towards the cap limit?

 

[Ring 6]

Should they not release cap space and what teams are spending towards the cap limit?

It’s not even close to the same thing.

Should they have players and coaches evaluate teammates and players on other teams and release that publicly?
Or should owners rank their players attitudes and disciplinary issues and publish that?

 

[Sect140]

It’s not even close to the same thing.

Should they have players and coaches evaluate teammates and players on other teams and release that publicly?
Or should owners rank their players attitudes and disciplinary issues and publish that?

I know it’s not the same thing just wanted to know where you draw the line on what should be made public and what shouldn’t.

 

[mike_usagisan]

The NFL Animal Farm analogy:
League/owners: Napoleon
Union leadership: Squealer
Mainstream Media: The Dogs
Players: The Horses
Fans: The Sheep

My kid just read that for high school English and I had to explain what the Soviet Union was.

 

[Sect140]

When the boys were younger they would ask me about the Soviet Union. What was cool is I broke out some pictures from when I was in the Air Force which showed F-15’s intercepting the Soviets Unions TU-95 Bombers.

 

[Ring 6]

I know it’s not the same thing just wanted to know where you draw the line on what should be made public and what shouldn’t.

I think I was pretty clear about why I disagree with this, so it’s really unnecessary to make up incongruent examples and pretend they meet the same criteria.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Probably 1 of the reasons RK is fixing stuff now.

One of the reasons? RKK said he was unaware of it which means it embarrassed him so much he could not admit it. The survey, no doubt, shamed RKK into fixing stuff.

 

[Sect140]

I think I was pretty clear about why I disagree with this, so it’s really unnecessary to make up incongruent examples and pretend they meet the same criteria.

And I was pretty clear that the surveys should be made public. So we agree to disagree.

 

[Ring 6]

And I was pretty clear that the surveys should be made public. So we agree to disagree.

Agreeing to disagree is fine. That’s not what you see doing though.