Joe Milton Dallas

[State]

sometimes you got to tip the guys who are taking out the trash...

Please don’t talk about Demontrey Jacobs in that way.

 

[mgteich]

Vrabel preferred and prefers to depend on Dobbs, rather than Milton. Vrabel was never going to carry a 3rd QB for the express purpose of waiting 3 years to trade him. His backup is Dobbs and was never going to be Milton.
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I suppose that Milton could have been kept on the 90-man roster as our #3 or #4 QB during camp. I suspect that would simply have been a distraction.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Vrabel preferred and prefers to depend on Dobbs, rather than Milton. Vrabel was never going to carry a 3rd QB for the express purpose of waiting 3 years to trade him. His backup is Dobbs and was never going to be Milton.
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I suppose that Milton could have been kept on the 90-man roster as our #3 or #4 QB during camp. I suspect that would simply have been a distraction.

if there's one thing clear about most Patsfans its that the backup quarterback is often perceived as the most talented person on the field.

It made zero sense to put Milton into competition with Maye, not to mention no sense in making Maye feel like he needs to look over his shoulder. So just not a good "fit" at that point.

No doubt Milton took advantage of his opportunity - much to our dismay - but I don't fault the guy for wanting a better path to get a shot as a starter, and Dallas makes more sense for his development.

As far as his recent comments where he was perceived to dis the leadership on the Patriots last year, I don't think much of us would argue with him. That had to be a downright weird situation to come into.

 

[Huckleberry1]

The trade of Joe Milton fueled the conspiracy theories and nontroversies of Sportstalk Radio for many weeks after and often continues to this day...

If Maye has an incomplete pass Felger is going to start screaming about what a terrible pick he was. His goal is simple, piss off as many people as possible so they will call in and he will get ratings.

 

[h0c2000]

 

[jdlboot14]

I won't ever be sad we chose Maye over Milton.
That said, I won't be surprised if Milton pulls on Dak what Dak did on Romo.
Milton has enough tangibles that supersede Dak right now. So, not shocked if those Poboys get enamored by his traits and throw him in there. He'll certainly have some impressive athletic plays, but he seems destined for mediocre due to his ****iness and lack of patience.

 

[JoeSixPat]

I won't ever be sad we chose Maye over Milton.
That said, I won't be surprised if Milton pulls on Dak what Dak did on Romo.
Milton has enough tangibles that supersede Dak right now. So, not shocked if those Poboys get enamored by his traits and throw him in there. He'll certainly have some impressive athletic plays, but he seems destined for mediocre due to his ****iness and lack of patience.

And that ****iness is on display as we speak.

Again I don't think any of us fault the guy for wanting to get his shot.

It's just that he has shown and continues to show that he can be a liability as a backup, as much as he may be an asset.

I'm still intrigued by the guy so am not ruling out success - but I don't see him destined to have a long-term or lucrative career as a backup since he's made clear to everyone that he has no ability to STFU.

 

[XLIX]

The love for Milton in this thread is hilarious. The people who said he would get us a first rounder are the same people saying he’s going to replace Dak.

 

[captain stone]

I liked Spann-Ford heading into the draft last year; he might've made for a better choice than Bell at the same spot, but I also want to give Bell one more chance this year too... Dude's a load at 6'6/260; and if he can make catches like that in the RZ... He should end-up as their #3 after TC & pre-season...

 

[captain stone]

The love for Milton in this thread is hilarious. The people who said he would get us a first rounder are the same people saying he’s going to replace Dak.

Somebody's replacing Dak soon enough, because the dude's a Choke Artist.

 

[DarrylS]

If Maye has an incomplete pass Felger is going to start screaming about what a terrible pick he was. His goal is simple, piss off as many people as possible so they will call in and he will get ratings.

One of the many reasons why I have chosen not to listen to Felger and now only listen to Bertram on Patriots Monday... the rest of their time is fueled by nontroversies..

 

[State]

Giving away Joe Milton is the biggest mistake the Vrabel regime has made.

Not bringing in a veteran LT is another boo boo. (VeeLow ain’t going anywhere.)

Drafting a kicker in the sixth round is looking dumber by the day.

 

[captain stone]

Giving away Joe Milton is the biggest mistake the Vrabel regime has made.

My main beef is that our front orifice felt the need to include the first pick of the 7th round (#217) with Milton for that measly 5th-rounder. ****ing gutless.

Not bringing in a veteran LT is another boo boo. (VeeLow ain’t going anywhere.)

VD's gotta get on the field first; let's hope that begins tomorrow... And not signing a vet LT is one of the top reasons why we didn't "win" the offseason, not by a damn sight.

Drafting a kicker in the sixth round is looking dumber by the day.

AND a ****ing long-snapperhead!!!

Those last 4 picks were ****ing Garbage; another reason why we didn't "win" the draft either.

 

[TommyD4207]

My main beef is that our front orifice felt the need to include the first pick of the 7th round (#217) with Milton for that measly 5th-rounder. ****ing gutless.




VD's gotta get on the field first; let's hope that begins tomorrow... And not signing a vet LT is one of the top reasons why we didn't "win" the offseason, not by a damn sight.





AND a ****ing long-snapperhead!!!

Those last 4 picks were ****ing Garbage; another reason why we didn't "win" the draft either.

Can we wait for them to at least put pads on before you unleash this gem you've had in the chamber since May?

 

[XLIX]

Somebody's replacing Dak soon enough, because the dude's a Choke Artist.

He was injured last year. The previous year he went for 4,500 yards with 36/9 TD/INT.

Every team in the NFL would love a "choke artist" like that - especially us.

 

[State]

Do we even know if tough guy Vrabel had a heart to heart with Milton? You know, keep grinding, Joe. No locker room *****ing. Don’t go around telling guys you should be starting over Maye.

Can you manage that?

The guy has a MUCH higher ceiling than our current backup. Cowboys fans are feeling like Celtics fans when Red Auerbach was wheeling and dealing.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Do we even know if tough guy Vrabel had a heart to heart with Milton? You know, keep grinding, Joe. No locker room *****ing. Don’t go around telling guys you should be starting over Maye.

Can you manage that?

The guy has a MUCH higher ceiling than our current backup. Cowboys fans are feeling like Celtics fans when Red Auerbach was wheeling and dealing.

Lets say he did. Vrabel wanted a vet backup for Maye. He told him he would be the 3rd stringer and even if he was 2nd string he'd be behind Maye. He then demanded a trade.

Milton is 25. He didn't want to sit. That we know for a fact. He wanted a chance to start and he wasn't going to get it here.

I really don't understand why fans want to keep this, "We should have kept Milton because....." thing going.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Giving away Joe Milton is the biggest mistake the Vrabel regime has made.

Not bringing in a veteran LT is another boo boo. (VeeLow ain’t going anywhere.)

Having a backup QB sniping at the guy ahead of him who he's supposed to support strikes me as a "Jets" type move to undermine a young QB's career. I hope Milton has a great career but he needs to learn to STFU if he wants to stick as a backup anywhere.

As far as LT, they tried... they had the most money to offer in fact... and everyone snubbed them. That left the draft and specifically Campbell as the only way to go, for better or worse. (i.e. they didn't WANT to address LT in the draft)

Folks should let that sink in a bit in that when it comes to free agency, the guys who want to win it all are currently thumbing their noses to Foxboro, given last year's near last place record, brand new QB, etc, etc.

Hopefully they show enough potential this season to attract the better free agents next off season.

 

[JoeSixPat]

The guy has a MUCH higher ceiling than our current backup. Cowboys fans are feeling like Celtics fans when Red Auerbach was wheeling and dealing.

You're correct about his ceiling.

But Maye's ceiling is higher than any of them, and keeping Milton would only lower it.

The backup QB situation for the Pats intentionally screams "we are 100% all in behind Maye and don't feel the need to keep him looking over his shoulder"

Now what happens this season if Maye goes down? Does anyone think they have a shot at contending for the SB this year even WITH Maye?

No. If Maye goes down you WANT to have a QB ready to tank the rest of the season at that point.

It's all well and good to have some players and even young QBs once you've got an established starter.

If that's their goal, then they certainly SHOULD have kept Milton at the expense of Maye's development.

But Red Auerbach of all people would be focused on the long game of investing in his starting QB, rather than undermining him to develop a backup QB in the hopes of gaining amid round draft pick.

 

[n1997y]

He was injured last year. The previous year he went for 4,500 yards with 36/9 TD/INT.

Every team in the NFL would love a "choke artist" like that - especially us.

I wouldn’t.

I’d look at how that previous year you hyped actually ended:

However, the Cowboys collapsed yet again in the playoffs, and despite having one of the best-ranked offenses and defenses of the league, were defeated 48–32 by their rival, seventh-seeded Green Bay Packers in the Wild Card round, at one point trailing 48–16 during the fourth quarter. With the loss, the Cowboys became the first team to lose to a #7 seed since the playoff bracket expanded for the 2020–21 NFL playoffs.

To me that’s an epic choke job. You can debate whose artistry caused the choke but I’d rather not import anyone associated with it, especially the consensus team leader, thank you very much.