Joe Milton at WR?

[gobesmug]

Best in terms of what?

He was only signed to be a placeholder for Maye and to take a beating while the line sorts itself out.

Brissett is now a savvy vet who understands his. He isn't a rookie trying to make a name for himself and win games on his back.

Brissett won't take beating, he will just dump the ball faster

 

[Simpelton]

OUr QB opening is NOT for a Hail Mary QB.

If Brissette is injured in Game 1, we need a QB to step in then and perhaps for Game 1. If Milton beats out Rourke, then he is that man.

Otherwise, he is trying to make the team as the #4 QB. He still wouldn't be throwing the Hail Mary passes since he wouldn't be active.

It would be shame to waste his athleticism on holding a clipboard when there's a lot of good he could do and money he could set himself up to earn on the field.

 

[mgteich]

It would be shame to waste his athleticism on holding a clipboard when there's a lot of good he could do and money he could set himself up to earn on the field.

If competing for a backup spot is not a reasonable option for him, we should trade or cut him.

 

[Simpelton]

Maye showing up alone should beat out Biscuit I am not against Starting the Rookie if he gets it. Similar to what we did with the Rookie Mac.

Our handling of Mac should NOT be used as an example, unless it's of what not to do.

 

[TommyD4207]

Coming in for a gadget play once in a while will at least keep him from being bored, while he's waiting for Maye to inevitably flame out.

 

[Gumby]

He could take a lesson from Edelman. There was nothing JE wouldn't do to get on the field. Return man, safety, WR, whatever you need, coach. We all know how that turned out. Obviously no one thinks much of Milton as a QB given his draft position.

Yeah, no 6rnd draft pick qb ever amounted to anything.

 

[Gumby]

Feel bad for Rourke.

What more does he need to do?

He was a star in Canada and has never been given a shot in the NFL.

He doesn’t have the talent of a Maye or Milton, but he works at developing his craft.

I hope he gets a real shot somewhere.

I was interested in him being in the conversation for starting QB if the Pats had traded down and not drafted Maye.

Agree like Rourk to be in the TC mix for time w 1string.

Kinda similar to the story of another CFL-product Patriots qb ( Flutie ).

His prejudice problem was the height; but all he did was play clutch & win above average.

 

[Keep Up With The Joneses]

Yeah, no 6rnd draft pick qb ever amounted to anything.

The exception proves the rule. Anyone who thinks or plans they're going to unearth the next Tom Brady in late rounds should not have a job in the NFL involving roster construction.

Is it possible? Yes, obviously. Is it likely? Absolutely not. The reason everyone remembers it is because so many things had to fall in to place for it to be even remotely a possibility.

It remains to be seen if Maye will become the heir apparent for the next 10 years, but if you pick him at 3 you have to believe he is. If you do and you pick a QB in the 4th, you know that guy is not going to see the field.

 

[1960Pats]

He could take a lesson from Edelman. There was nothing JE wouldn't do to get on the field. Return man, safety, WR, whatever you need, coach. We all know how that turned out. Obviously no one thinks much of Milton as a QB given his draft position.

Milton doesn't have Frank Edelman for a father. Jules does. Some of the things Frank did with Jules might be considered abuse by the snowflakes these days, but they sure as hell worked.

 

[Simpelton]

Yeah, no 6rnd draft pick qb ever amounted to anything.

If Brady had the same kind of athleticism as a guy like Milton. I have a feeling he would have been willing to roleplay to get on the field.

If Milton is content to hold a clipboard as a 3rd string quarterback when he clearly has the build and athleticism to do more should he choose to put in the work, then he's fated to hit a dead end to his NFL career pretty quickly and I won't be that sorry.

Joe Milton III is not a lock for an NFL roster spot. He's a 6th round pick and he's gonna be in a roster battle with O'Rourke and Zappe, both of which can hold a clipboard exactly as well as he can. And I wouldn't be surprised if we kick the tires on a couple of camp bodies at the QB position and you never know what can happen with that. Bottom line, there's no guarantee that Milton breaks camp with an actual NFL job. 6th rounders are cut in camp all the time. Hell it nearly happened to Brock Purdy if reports are to be believed.

In his position you do EVERYTHING YOU CAN to make yourself useful to the team because there's literally dozens of guys out there hungry for the job you have right now and nothing is guaranteed to you.

I get he doesn't want to be a TE because he's not that physical, it's cool, not all big guys are all about the aggression, but WR should be a thing he can do, and it will get him both more field time, AND a more secure roster spot, then holding out for the improbable.

For a guy like him who's gonna have to fight to even stay on a roster, he's gonna have to make a decision very quickly, do I want to be a quarterback, or an NFL player, in the very likely possibility that I can't be both?

 

[VJCPatriot]

Taysom Hill is still listed as a QB and started quite a few games. He settled into his role as QB/wildcat/RPO/extra blocker/receiver etc... He is also a crowd favorite in New Orleans. Hill is the first person I thought of when I heard this pick. I just don't know if Milton can catch.

I'm thinking the same. Milton can be our version of Taysom Hill. And that's a pretty valuable element to give the offense some unpredictability. My advice to Milton is don't get hung up on the position name and just be a football player. Get on the field and contribute however you can.

This is from Taysom Hill's bio on the Saint's website:

"In 2023, Hill continued to excel in a hybrid role, taking snaps at quarterback, tight end and wide receiver positions as well as being a contributor on special teams. Starting seven of 16 contests he appeared in, Hill rushed 81 times for 401 yards and four touchdowns, had a career-best 33 receptions for 291 yards and three touchdowns, and completed 6-of-11 passes for 83 yards and one touchdown, while adding two special teams stops. Hill has 12 career touchdown passes, 27 rushing touchdowns and 12 career receiving scores, making him the first NFL player since Frank Gifford 1952-64) to reach double-digit totals in passing, rushing and receiving touchdowns."

If Milton can give us something comparable, he will be a weapon, and not just an orange chucker sitting on the bench.

Source: Taysom Hill (QB): Bio, News, Stats & more

 

[Gumby]

If Brady had the same kind of athleticism as a guy like Milton. I have a feeling he would have been willing to roleplay to get on the field.

If Milton is content to hold a clipboard as a 3rd string quarterback when he clearly has the build and athleticism to do more should he choose to put in the work, then he's fated to hit a dead end to his NFL career pretty quickly and I won't be that sorry.

Joe Milton III is not a lock for an NFL roster spot. He's a 6th round pick and he's gonna be in a roster battle with O'Rourke and Zappe, both of which can hold a clipboard exactly as well as he can. And I wouldn't be surprised if we kick the tires on a couple of camp bodies at the QB position and you never know what can happen with that. Bottom line, there's no guarantee that Milton breaks camp with an actual NFL job. 6th rounders are cut in camp all the time. Hell it nearly happened to Brock Purdy if reports are to be believed.

In his position you do EVERYTHING YOU CAN to make yourself useful to the team because there's literally dozens of guys out there hungry for the job you have right now and nothing is guaranteed to you.

I get he doesn't want to be a TE because he's not that physical, it's cool, not all big guys are all about the aggression, but WR should be a thing he can do, and it will get him both more field time, AND a more secure roster spot, then holding out for the improbable.

For a guy like him who's gonna have to fight to even stay on a roster, he's gonna have to make a decision very quickly, do I want to be a quarterback, or an NFL player, in the very likely possibility that I can't be both?

Ok, TB is/was an anomaly ( but a good comeback line)

HOWEVER, how about this 7th round pick; he’s even worse draft position than Milton

He should obviously be workkng out at punt team gunner and give up this whole QB thing:

 

[VJCPatriot]

Edelman was a very successful QB conversion project.

I don't mind Milton in the 6th at all because of his immense athletic upside.

I think Milton could contribute a lot more to the Patriots if he would embrace the Taysom Hill role.

Taysom Hill does it all - run, pass, and throw and he's a valuable asset for his team.

With the AVP Outside Zone system, I could see Milton playing a wildcard kind of role on gadget plays, misdirection plays, etc. Get him rolling out and see what he can do with some green grass in front of him.

 

[Gumby]

Ok, TB is/was an anomaly ( but a good comeback line)

HOWEVER, how about this 7th round pick; he’s even worse draft position than Milton

He should obviously be workkng out at punt team gunner and give up this whole QB thing:

I just object to those who say he SHOULD give up on being a QB based on his draft position. That is nonsense . His position was based on being a developmental player who has to sit 1-3 years. Rnds 1-5 are for guys who will or might see the field.

I guarantee if he sticks to his guns and won’t try other positions and pats cut him; at least 4 other teams (likely more) will claim him as a QB to their 53 man roster.

So why should he give up on his chance to get developed and be distracted by learning other non-natural positions?

 

[Bruins_Fanatic]

Rourke wasn't that good or accurate in Canada, he isn't that good here... I like maple syrup as much as the next guy, but I don't understand the Rourke hype train. I don't know Rourke can surpass Zappe... never mind the two uber athletic giant children. Zappe probably needs a fresh start elsewhere.

What are you talking about? Not good in Canada? In 2022, he ended the season leading the league in passer efficiency, completion percentage and yards per game. His mark of 78.7% set a new CFL record for the highest completion percentage in a single season in league history. He went to Jacksonville and was outstanding in preseason. Rourke completed 23 of 35 passes (65.7 percent) for 348 yards during the preseason.



Mayo said "At the end of the day, our philosophy is, the best players will play".

Let's see what Rourke can do and if Rourke plays well, let's see what Mayo does.

 

[Bruins_Fanatic]

Rourke last week working with his throwing coach behind Gillette Stadium:



And before that throwing with T.J. Luther



May explain why Zappe’s name is the one being mentioned as the one on the training block. Albeit, what Rourke’s future holds is now a big question mark.

Mayo, Van Pelt, Wolf and gang must see Rourke doing this behind Gillette stadium while driving into the parking lot knowing that Rourke is coming to compete in training camp.

Rourke was picked up from Jacksonville and within 3 weeks was #2 on the depth chart with Mac Jones relegated to emergency QB for the final Jets game. Don't count this guy out.

Kind of reminds me of the movie 'Rocky'. Apollo Creed got all the media attention, all the photos, all the the TV interviews. Rocky Balboa was in a meat locker in a rough neighbourhood in Philly punching slabs of frozen raw meat.

I have no clue how Rourke will look in training camp and pre-season, but he sure looked good last year with Jacksonville. Let's see how he does before people write him off.

 

[Salsalife]

Stop it! Tee Higgins is still out there and has till July to decide. Let's keep talking to him. You talk about Patriots being relevant this year....That would make me pumped for this draft class to add him. Let's GO!

 

[gobesmug]

If Brady had the same kind of athleticism as a guy like Milton. I have a feeling he would have been willing to roleplay to get on the field.

If Milton is content to hold a clipboard as a 3rd string quarterback when he clearly has the build and athleticism to do more should he choose to put in the work, then he's fated to hit a dead end to his NFL career pretty quickly and I won't be that sorry.

Joe Milton III is not a lock for an NFL roster spot. He's a 6th round pick and he's gonna be in a roster battle with O'Rourke and Zappe, both of which can hold a clipboard exactly as well as he can. And I wouldn't be surprised if we kick the tires on a couple of camp bodies at the QB position and you never know what can happen with that. Bottom line, there's no guarantee that Milton breaks camp with an actual NFL job. 6th rounders are cut in camp all the time. Hell it nearly happened to Brock Purdy if reports are to be believed.

In his position you do EVERYTHING YOU CAN to make yourself useful to the team because there's literally dozens of guys out there hungry for the job you have right now and nothing is guaranteed to you.

I get he doesn't want to be a TE because he's not that physical, it's cool, not all big guys are all about the aggression, but WR should be a thing he can do, and it will get him both more field time, AND a more secure roster spot, then holding out for the improbable.

For a guy like him who's gonna have to fight to even stay on a roster, he's gonna have to make a decision very quickly, do I want to be a quarterback, or an NFL player, in the very likely possibility that I can't be both?

If Brady had Milton's athleticism coming out of college he would have been the #1 overall pick being called the next John Elway

 

[Keep Up With The Joneses]

Yeah, no 6rnd draft pick qb ever amounted to anything.

The exception proves the rule. Anyone who thinks or plans they're going to unearth the next Tom Brady in late rounds should not have a job in the NFL.

Ok, TB is/was an anomaly ( but a good comeback line)

HOWEVER, how about this 7th round pick; he’s even worse draft position than Milton

He should obviously be workkng out at punt team gunner and give up this whole QB thing:

Same reply as above. The exception proves the rule. A lot of things had to happen for Purdy to even see the field. He's turning into a nice player, but he has probably the best collection of weapons in the league and an excellent organization. Had Purdy gotten a chance to see the field here, I doubt we would have seen the same results.

I hear what you're saying. In a league that is hungry for QBs Milton might eventually get on someone else's roster. The question is does he want to play football or hold a clipboard? I think Taysom Hill and Edelman are better examples to point to than Tom Brady and Brock Purdy as far as what this kid could be if he's willing to open his mind up a bit.

I dug this up not necessarily to support my argument but to add an interesting take on the best QBs to come out of each round over the course of recent history. Enjoy.

The Best Quarterbacks Taken in Each Round of the NFL Draft

All eyes may be on the first round, but there have been plenty of late-stage steals in the draft’s seven-round era.

www.si.com

 

[Gumby]

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I hear what you're saying. In a league that is hungry for QBs Milton might eventually get on someone else's roster. The question is does he want to play football or hold a clipboard? …

That’s the whole point: he’s said he’d rather COMPETE & hold a clipboard if he has to then change positions. But a laundry list of posters here seem to think they know what is best for him. He has faith in himself; so let him try. Stop trying to re-live Edelman.

to add an interesting take on the best QBs to come out of each round over the course of recent history. Enjoy.

The Best Quarterbacks Taken in Each Round of the NFL Draft

All eyes may be on the first round, but there have been plenty of late-stage steals in the draft’s seven-round era.

www.si.com

Thanks. Couple surprises in there.