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Is Belichick still a great coach or did Belichick “ruin” Mac Jones?

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I am not going to do your homework for you, and I am not going to waste my time explaining the player/coach dynamic to you when your just being pedantic. Brady did not go from Everything He Does He Must Do Faster in 2000 to GOAT by The Seattle SB all by himself. If you cannot see how coaching works even at the basic level of football, then I cannot help you.
“If you don’t know, I’m not going to tell you.” Got it.

I just did the homework for you.
 
“If you don’t know, I’m not going to tell you.” Got it.

I just did the homework for you.
We are done here. Feel free to comment and get the last word in, Andy.
 
Rob crying to Ian to rescue him from this thread


Not need rescuing from you or the idiot who says that Brady was elite from day one and if you disagree you hate Brady.... And apparently reality and facts.

You don't bother me. I think you an moronic a-hole. I don't value your opinion or care enough about you to bother me. On the other hand, you frequently lose your crap with me. And you literally ran to Ian to get my post removed from a thread just today.
 
Revisionist. Plenty of experts thought Tom was a game manager until 2007 when he absolutely ascended to another level.

I am not going to do your homework for you, and I am not going to waste my time explaining the player/coach dynamic to you when your just being pedantic. Brady did not go from Everything He Does He Must Do Faster in 2000 to GOAT by The Seattle SB all by himself. If you cannot see how coaching works even at the basic level of football, then I cannot help you.

You’re relying on the media commentary of Patriot haters for your talking points. Absolute cringe.

Apparently I have to remind you he had won three Super Bowls and been to four AFC Championship games by the end of 2006.

I’m assuming you didn’t watch football back then.

If referring to Brady as a ****ing game manager was an instantaneous bannable offense maybe this forum wouldn’t be so full of ****ing ******s. It’s like we’re back in 2020 where you cretins have to have the ever-loving-**** regulated out of you to state the obvious and defend the obvious.

The only people I’ve ever met that attacked Tom were bitter NFL rivals and fat ugly people that just hate someone is that awesome.
 
Just so we’re clear, I’m fully aware that defending Tom Brady from ****ty Colt fan arguments on this forum is now super-taboo and problematic.

 
Mac sucks. Period.

Look at the difference in pocket movement between Mac and Zappe. Mac will never have success if he can't improve that aspect of his game and this is something that can't be blamed on BB.

Also, Mac only looks halfway decent when he drives the ball as hard as he can. Its frustrating because he can throw it harder but he prefers throwing soft floaters. Maybe he is afraid to throw out his arm???? But I'm done with Mac. I was done with him last year to be honest. It didn't take me long to be done with Jordan Richards or N'Keal Harry either. Ignore his draft status and there is nothing to like about him. Bad pocket movement, poor qb sneak, turnover machine, crybaby, and at times dirty. It is hard to ignore these negative traits when we are losing.
 
Not need rescuing from you or the idiot who says that Brady was elite from day one and if you disagree you hate Brady.... And apparently reality and facts.

You don't bother me. I think you a moronic a-hole. I don't value your opinion or care enough about you to bother me. On the other hand, you frequently lose your crap with me. And you literally ran to Ian to get my post removed from a thread just today.
Cool story. Post physique.
 
Sorry if I live in the real world where Brady didn't have Montana status in 2001.
You don’t say? A guy wasn’t universally regarded as the GOAT after 18 games as a starter? That’s very solid evidence that he wasn’t great during that year, much more convincing than his +7 ppg increase, (first of 15) pro bowl selection, two iconic postseason game winning drives, (first of 7) Super Bowl win and (first of 5) Super Bowl MVP award. It was really the rest of the (5-13) team that carried him. He was a game manager.
 
Live look at Rob and Steve ballwashing BB


I have repeatedly said that Belichick should be fired. I said followed the bad team playbook on how to ruin a QB with Mac and Zappe in this thread. How is that ball washing?
 
He lead a game-winning drive, backed up against his own end-zone, with no timeouts, in the ****ing Super Bowl, while giving John Madden goosebumps on international television, first first ****ing year as a starter.

That’s pretty Montana status.

Why don’t you just admit you hate Brady?
In that game Madden said something to the effect of "I'm not saying he is Montana but he reminds of him with his calmness"
 
Not need rescuing from you or the idiot who says that Brady was elite from day one and if you disagree you hate Brady.... And apparently reality and facts.

You don't bother me. I think you an moronic a-hole. I don't value your opinion or care enough about you to bother me. On the other hand, you frequently lose your crap with me. And you literally ran to Ian to get my post removed from a thread just today.
Never asked for it to be removed. Just pointed out what an annoying twat you are 24-7 posting the same drivel while others get banned for less. Shouldn’t you be sucking up to Ian now with your **** eating grin while sycophantically cheering on his reluctant locking of threads which you participate in?
 
I could post these all ****ing day to show you’re both absolutely ******ed and vile but everyone here on a ****ing Patriots forum should just already know.

So did Mac Jones suck or did Bill Belichick become incapable and start ruining quarterbacks?
 
Never asked for it to be removed. Just pointed out what an annoying twat you are 24-7 posting the same drivel while others get banned for less. Shouldn’t you be sucking up to Ian now with your **** eating grin while sycophantically cheering on his reluctant thread locking of threads which you participate in?

Ah! Ha! You complained to Ian that other people have gotten banned for making posts that you accused me of doing obviously inferring I should be treated the same. Hey, I get it. I was five years old once. I know what it is like running to daddy when I don't get my way. I understand why you did it.

And Ian locked the thread in large part because of you were being an ass. I found the thread enjoyable. But I just decided not to continue because someone else created that thread and it shouldn't have been hijacked like it was. And I take responsibility for that.

This thread on the other hand was created just to crap talk and berate other posters. So I don't care about ruining it.
 
These ****ing Brady haters have tarnished this once proud forum. Rob should be tarred and feathered and thrown out the ****ing door for these stupid ass posts.

Steve would obviously excitedly follow on his own accord.
 
Hey @PATS16N0, this is a lovely thread. You achieved what you wanted with it. You started it for a place for you to have your little temper tantrum and turn into a dumpster fire. Mission accomplished.
 
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