Interior OL

[Ross12]

If the Pats trade down to, let’s say 7 with the Jets, and Will Campbell is still there - worth taking him there as a left guard? You’d have a really really solid IOL which is probably most important for Maye. Would need to pay a LT in free agency.

 

[TommyD4207]

If the Pats trade down to, let’s say 7 with the Jets, and Will Campbell is still there - worth taking him there as a left guard? You’d have a really really solid IOL which is probably most important for Maye. Would need to pay a LT in free agency.

I'd feel a hell of a lot better taking him at 7 with an additional 2nd and another pick in my pocket.
That way you can take him, and you can take one of the traditional-sized tackles in the 2nd, and let it all shake out in camp, assuming they'd both be starting somewhere at the very least.

 

[Real fan 02]

If the Pats trade down to, let’s say 7 with the Jets, and Will Campbell is still there - worth taking him there as a left guard? You’d have a really really solid IOL which is probably most important for Maye. Would need to pay a LT in free agency.

It's such a gamble with FA.. I was told Alaric Jackson re-upped with LA and the Ravens are intent on extending Stanley.. so that leaves us with minimal options at LT.. there's vederian Lowe clone in Dan Moore.. I'd rather take Campbell and have him at LT, Strange at LG, Andrews At C, ownenu RG and Robinson at RT. What you do think?

 

[TommyD4207]

It's such a gamble with FA.. I was told Alaric Jackson re-upped with LA and the Ravens are intent on extending Stanley.. so that leaves us with minimal options at LT.. there's vederian Lowe clone in Dan Moore.. I'd rather take Campbell and have him at LT, Strange at LG, Andrews At C, ownenu RG and Robinson at RT. What you do think?

Robinson can't play, and Andrews looked washed before he got hurt - and Onwenu's regression after he got the big contract was striking, and actually scary.

Short answer, no, that's not nearly good enough.

 

[Real fan 02]

Robinson can't play, and Andrews looked washed before he got hurt - and Onwenu's regression after he got the big contract was striking, and actually scary.

Short answer, no, that's not nearly good enough.

So then we need a complete new starting 5? Entire new OL none of them are any good?

 

[AQPE]

In this discussion, one should not understate the absolute incompetence and failure of Scott Peters. Quick, name a single player who improved notably last year under him. Lowe is the closest I can think of and he was overmatched most weeks. I suspect Peters was the main guy promoting the idea that Okorafor and Wallace and Robinson could switch from the right side to the left, and I hold him highly culpable for ****ing up the 2024 offseason and not finding a way to get anything out of Sow last year.

I expect Onwenu to come to camp in shape this time and be a fixture at RG, with Robinson his backup. I think Big Mike can be a good RG if he stays in shape. If not then they should trade him for whatever they can get.

I’m hoping Strange sees his golden opportunity at Center and capitalizes on it. If his athleticism is back I think he can be good there. I respect Andrews but I think he’s toast at this point. I don’t expect Strwnge to be here in 2026.

So the question for me for the IOL is LG. I think Sow will tsay as a backup and they will sign a veteran, then draft another guy that could play LG or Center, unless they think Jake Andrews can be that guy.

 

[Real fan 02]

In this discussion, one should not understate the absolute incompetence and failure of Scott Peters. Quick, name a single player who improved notably last year under him. Lowe is the closest I can think of and he was overmatched most weeks. I suspect Peters was the main guy promoting the idea that Okorafor and Wallace and Robinson could switch from the right side to the left, and I hold him highly culpable for ****ing up the 2024 offseason and not finding a way to get anything out of Sow last year.

I expect Onwenu to come to camp in shape this time and be a fixture at RG, with Robinson his backup. I think Big Mike can be a good RG if he stays in shape.

I’m hoping Strange sees his golden opportunity at Center and capitalizes on it. If his athleticism is back I think he can be good there. I respect Andrews but I think he’s toast at this point. I don’t expect Strwnge to be here in 2026.

So the question for me for the IOL is LG. I think Sow will say as a backup and they will sign a veteran, then draft another guy that could play LG or Center, unless they think Jake Andrews can be that guy.

Great points. I go back to the comments from the players after the season was over. Gonzo saying guys relaxed and didn't alway put fourth full effort. Dugger saying the communication was bad all season without Bentley and that he should have been a better leader. Jon Jones saying they never felt like they had a coaching advantage all season. That sums up the 2024 season. We already have upgraded the roster by the coaching. Guys will be held accountable, be coached hard, and put in positions to succeed. For the OL we simply need 5 of the best OL that will play sound football and be competent.

 

[Huckleberry1]

LT is the truer need. If we can somehow trade for a Stud LT then I'd be more willing to test the waters on Strange LG, David Andrews C, and Onwenwu RG. I'm not quite ready to give up on either of them but we can't exactly rely on all of them either.

Problem is I don't know who that stud LT will be so I think we might have to make a tough decision in one of those spots because we are more likely to find interior OL talent than LT. Hopefully bringing in a starter on the OL doesn't piss the guy off who might lose his spot because we also need the depth. I think we'd all feel more comfortable with 4 solid choices fighting it out for the 3 spots but losing PT can be a tough pill to swallow.

I don’t think they can trade for a LT. I do think they can make a deal with Cleveland for Jack Conklin, which would solve RT.

 

[Ross12]

In this discussion, one should not understate the absolute incompetence and failure of Scott Peters. Quick, name a single player who improved notably last year under him. Lowe is the closest I can think of and he was overmatched most weeks. I suspect Peters was the main guy promoting the idea that Okorafor and Wallace and Robinson could switch from the right side to the left, and I hold him highly culpable for ****ing up the 2024 offseason and not finding a way to get anything out of Sow last year.

I expect Onwenu to come to camp in shape this time and be a fixture at RG, with Robinson his backup. I think Big Mike can be a good RG if he stays in shape. If not then they should trade him for whatever they can get.

I’m hoping Strange sees his golden opportunity at Center and capitalizes on it. If his athleticism is back I think he can be good there. I respect Andrews but I think he’s toast at this point. I don’t expect Strwnge to be here in 2026.

So the question for me for the IOL is LG. I think Sow will tsay as a backup and they will sign a veteran, then draft another guy that could play LG or Center, unless they think Jake Andrews can be that guy.

Onwenu will return to form, and between David Andrews, Strange and Jake Andrews they should be fine at center. Supposedly Doug Marrone likes Wallace as the right tackle from what I have heard in podcasts and that seems fine with me since the kid really should’ve just been a right tackle all along. They should have competition there but I don’t really see any issues with Wallace likely being the guy and a decent vet backup.

So it just comes down to LG and LT really.

 

[Real fan 02]

I don’t think they can trade for a LT. I do think they can make a deal with Cleveland for Jack Conklin, which would solve RT.

For some reason I'm not a overly concerned with RT as LT..

 

[Real fan 02]

Onwenu will return to form, and between David Andrews, Strange and Jake Andrews they should be fine at center. Supposedly Doug Marrone likes Wallace as the right tackle from what I have heard in podcasts and that seems fine with me since the kid really should’ve just been a right tackle all along. They should have competition there but I don’t really see any issues with Wallace likely being the guy and a decent vet backup.

So it just comes down to LG and LT really.

Ross we just need 5 COMPETENT guys on the OL. We have the coaching these guys will need now it's up to them to go out protect and move the line of scrimmage forward instead of backwards like last season.

 

[PatsFan2]

What are we doing here with this group?

Onwenu
David Andrews
Cole Strange
Layden Robinson
Sidy Sow
Cam Wallace

Should the plan first off be to kick Onwenu back out to right tackle? Are we still rolling with Andrews at center, or is it time to finally move on there?

I get we’re harping at the need at tackle. But I also have a hard time trusting that total group above. A lot of injury issues/ lack of development. Should we be buyers on the inside of the line as well?

Cole Strange basically got a year off he needs to bring it this year... want to see more from Jake Andrews too.

 

[Real fan 02]

Cole Strange basically got a year off he needs to bring it this year... want to see more from Jake Andrews too.

Someone told me In a post none of the OL are any good twin. Jake Andrews is missing in action..

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Stanley at LT and Mekari at RT? If so, I'm down with that!

I would honestly grab both plus a pick swap for Conklin at rt and not take any chances with LG. Granted, none of these guys are young but i can see all of them giving us 3 years.

We have so much cap room and im not sure how we’ll spend it all with our targets possibly getting tagged or extended so might as well patch up the line best we can with whoever is gonna be available. Plus im wondering what the best case scenario even is with d andrews. If we’re likely to have to move on from him in a year either way, might as well make the extra sign and move on now if we can ( saves us close to 3m too i believe ).

 

[Real fan 02]

I would honestly grab both plus a pick swap for Conklin at rt and not take any chances with LG. Granted, none of these guys are young but i can see all of them giving us 3 years.

We have so much cap room and im not sure how we’ll spend it all with our targets possibly getting tagged or extended so might as well patch up the line best we can with whoever is gonna be available. Plus im wondering what the best case scenario even is with d andrews. If we’re likely to have to move on from him in a year either way, might as well make the extra sign and move on now if we can ( saves us close to 3m too i believe ).

I honestly don't think Stanley is leaving Baltimore he's in a fantastic situation there. So it's seemingly going to come down to us either signing another 2nd tier OT or draft Campbell...

 

[DaBruinz]

What are we doing here with this group?

Onwenu
David Andrews
Cole Strange
Layden Robinson
Sidy Sow
Cam Wallace

Should the plan first off be to kick Onwenu back out to right tackle? Are we still rolling with Andrews at center, or is it time to finally move on there?

I get we’re harping at the need at tackle. But I also have a hard time trusting that total group above. A lot of injury issues/ lack of development. Should we be buyers on the inside of the line as well?

Who is "CAM WALLACE"?

 

[borg]

Patriots may be suitors for Ravens left tackle Ronnie Stanley in free agency

Stanley is the No. 6 player on PFT's list of the Top 100 free agents.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[DaBruinz]

In this discussion, one should not understate the absolute incompetence and failure of Scott Peters. Quick, name a single player who improved notably last year under him. Lowe is the closest I can think of and he was overmatched most weeks. I suspect Peters was the main guy promoting the idea that Okorafor and Wallace and Robinson could switch from the right side to the left, and I hold him highly culpable for ****ing up the 2024 offseason and not finding a way to get anything out of Sow last year.

I expect Onwenu to come to camp in shape this time and be a fixture at RG, with Robinson his backup. I think Big Mike can be a good RG if he stays in shape. If not then they should trade him for whatever they can get.

I’m hoping Strange sees his golden opportunity at Center and capitalizes on it. If his athleticism is back I think he can be good there. I respect Andrews but I think he’s toast at this point. I don’t expect Strwnge to be here in 2026.

So the question for me for the IOL is LG. I think Sow will tsay as a backup and they will sign a veteran, then draft another guy that could play LG or Center, unless they think Jake Andrews can be that guy.

You hold Peters responsible for him doing what he was told by Mayo/ Wolf? Really?

Mayo said from the day he was hired that he'd be mixing and matching to see who won positions. That was before Peters was hired.

Wallace was RT1/LT2. That's from his College HC. He flat out stated that Wallace took snaps every practice at LT in the even he had to move there due to an injury. WOLF said that they eyed Wallace for LT when they drafted him,.

Layden Robinson never played LG in his college career. One of the things mentioned about Robinson was a lack of Athleticism. The he needed to play in an offense where he was not being asked to move a lot, but being asked to MAUL opposing DTs. That's the opposite of what the Shanahan Outside Zone Scheme calls for. Robinson was a bad fit, scheme wise, and never should have been on the Pats draft board that early because of it.

This idea that you're selling that PETERS came in and over-ruled the SCOUTS, WOLF, and MAYO to push an idea has about as much validity as a $3 bill is legal tender.

 

[rkarp1]

I believe there is enough talent at the IOL positions if the team stands pat.
agree leave Onwenu at RG and if he is healthy, he needs to come into camp in shape and ready to realize his 2026 salary with his 2025 play.
Sow and Robinson showed enough in their rookie seasons to think that with some coaching, they can both play in the league.
Andrews, Strange and Andrews round out the group.
really, Marrone and McD are the two most important pieces for the IOL

 

[Toofy]

Sow was a decent LG. Keep him there and Robinson as his backup.

Move strange to center and andrews as backup. Release Jake Andrews and ben Brown

RT - go with caedan Wallace

LT- Dan Moore / rookie 1st round or 2nd round draft pick . Lowe as backup

RG - onwenu

Get another vet as swing tackle and maybe another tackle as developmental backup .


LT-TBD/Sow/ strange / onwenu/ Wallace should be a decent line .

Coach them so that they can be average. Let's hope 3 to 4 solidify so that we just have 1 open position for next year. No point having a revolving carousel every year