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  1. Vindicate

    Vindicate Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Our redzone production isn't what it once was, but I was happy to see us have some strong moments against the Ravens. That's a decent secondary their fielding, their offense did all they could to keep Brady off the field, yet we certainly - in the 2nd and 3rd - marched down the field multiple times. I thought it was one of the more promising games from the offense since the singular game with AB.

    At this point it's foggy, but do I remember us having some success passing to either White or Michel like, 3-5 yds up field and basically setting blocks from there? Basically masking our inability to create holes at LOS? It's possible I'm only remembering the few times it worked and neglecting every time it didn't haha.
     
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    NG Pats Fan PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Yeah they don’t have Tom Brady as their QB. Watch what happens when Brady retires
     
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    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Is it your position that the Patriots win Super Bowls because they draft poorly at WR and RB?
     
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    I think our skill positions are fine. We may not have any superstars but we have great depth.

    TE is a prayer that Watson stays healthy.

    The problem is the OL. Get Wynn back and things will look remarkably different. It’s that simple.
     
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    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    It will take more than Wynn. Karras needs to continue to improve. Mason needs to be healthy. And, Cannon needs to get out of his funk.

     
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    We’ve got skill players?
     
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    Bobsyouruncle Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    They don’t have them at any position on offense.
     
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    Except QB and LG.

    JE is on a pace for 112/1168/7tds. That's all pro.
     
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    I think Thuney and Brady would qualify. Hey its a start. ;)
     
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    The best WR's on the Patriots SB winning teams:

    2001: Troy Brown
    2003: Deion Branch
    2004: Deion Branch
    2014: Julian Edelman
    2016: Julian Edelman
    2018: Julian Edelman

    The talent itself isn't the problem at WR right now, it's the consistency. Every week (either due to injuries or self-implosion) has had a different group of WR's to work with. And not just that, but the same thing has happened to the OL, and TE/FB group. People keep keying in on "talent", but what gives an offense like this success is rhythm and trust, something they just haven't had a chance to develop.

    I don't know if Wynn solves the OL, but he helps. I don't know if Harry solves our red zone inefficiency, but he gives us another option. Get them back and give us a few weeks of the same guys building rapport, and I'll bet you see a marked improvement in all areas. Acting like the problem with this offense is that we just don't have a good enough WR is focusing on the wrong thing, IMO.
     
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    Has Dante's tenure been met with any teams that were fascinating with run blocking? Just wondering! Not asking this rhetorically.

    Even in a universe where "no" is the answer (which I assume isn't the case), I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that the run issues maybe are a coaching problem - just wondering. Any RB production I can remember has seemingly come after the pass.

    Production last year seemed to be heavily attributed to having two of the top blocking TE's on the field, one of which was the greatest receiving TE ever - which in of itself was a wrinkle for defenses to decipher.
     
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    According to his game log you provided, in the playoffs he's averaging 112 rushing yards per game and 2 rushing TDs per game.

    In a 16 game season that would be 1792 rushing yards and 32 rushing TDs.

    Seems pretty great to me.
     
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    Only if OL play significantly improves with return of Wynn ....if not will be tough going
     
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    Good points OL is number one priority or O will continue to struggle
     
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    If you're just going to point to YPA, this is going to be a slaughter, and you're going to be on the losing side. He's had 3 playoff games. Just as in the regular season, he's been up and down with the ypa in them. Even on his best run, which is post-Pittsburgh and through the playoffs, his ypa alternated between over 4 and under 4. And that's even taking out the impact of the run blocking.

    But, hey, why not just extrapolate from one game, and really warp the argument? He averaged 6.44 ypa in one of the Buffalo games, on 18 carries. If he can just keep that up in every game moving forward, he'll be the greatest RB to ever play the game!

    And TDs? Come on.
     
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    glm In the Starting Line-Up

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    Stopped reading here.

    I never mentioned YPA in my post.

    It appears the only slaughtering here was you slaughtering yourself. Congratulations.
     
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    Considering the trade deadline has come and gone and there's nobody better on the streets, you kinda have to be okay with our skill guys, no?
     
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    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Holy ****. You were serious about using YPG over the course of a 3 game stretch as your base stat?

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    YPA, with appropriate context, has value. YPG, particularly in only a small sample size of games, is absolutely useless when trying to determine the quality of a RB. I was giving you the credit I thought you deserved, since I thought that pretty much every Patriots fan had learned that lesson from the Jonas Gray experience. My mistake. In the future, I'll remember that you don't deserve that benefit of the doubt.
     
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    glm In the Starting Line-Up

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    Well isn't this just a pathetic attempt to save face after you took a steaming crap all over yourself in your last post.

    :+)
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