I Don't Think That Vrabel Will Draft Hunter At 4

[Huckleberry1]

I am not being a smart ass, so don't misunderstand my question. Who's done it currently in the NFL ?

JC Latham, came out as Alabama’s right tackle and played left tackle in Tennessee this year, and Wirfs, as Tommy said. And the thing people need to remember with Membou is that he started playing football really late, and he’s still only 20, and a phenomenal athlete.

As far as Membou goes we should get the answer draft night, because the Patriots wont draft him to play right tackle. Same goes for Campbell. They wont draft him to play Guard or right tackle. So if they draft either it will be to play left tackle.

 

[Love The Drake]

I’m on record to the devastation i will feel if Hunter is there and we pass on him.

Question would you trade future assets to secure our left tackle with a trade up if we don’t take a left tackle at 4?

 

[WhatJustHappened]

"I'm fkn devastated"
Get REAL.

 

[Steve102]

How many OTHERS have been great at it Tommy?
Almost Everyone here thinks a RT can move to LT.
I Find that stupid and idiotic.
Have fun in your Fantasy.
"Like wiping with your other hand"

Bah

I’m with you.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Hunter, who definitely played VERY WELL, Played against fkn WAITERS.
He didn't play against the BEST Competition, he played against CHUMPS that will probably NOT even get drafted in the first 5 rds.
Yet this guy is called "Generational"
I hear that ******** TERM being used almost every year, and we continually see otherwise.
Trevor, Andrew, MHJ...
IF YOU'RE CONSIDERED GENERATIONAL, you make **** happen.
Maybe Hunter is that 1 in 100, but considering the defenses he played against, I'm not buying it.

 

[Headcase]

I’m on record to the devastation i will feel if Hunter is there and we pass on him.

Question would you trade future assets to secure our left tackle with a trade up if we don’t take a left tackle at 4?

No, trading future assets to move up in a weak draft should be off the table....if they want to use 38, one of the 3rds and maybe a 6 or 7 sure....but not '26 picks.

 

[imahobgoblin]

Alive enough to be positive 99.9 % of people that think they know about every NFL draft are full of BS.

Nobody predicted that Mahomes would challenge the GOAT.

I don't need the draft to find BS. I just read your posts. No one predicted the GOAT would be drafted in the 6th round either. So what is your point? Fans are not prophets and psychics. Wow what a great contribution the the forum. None of us knew that.

 

[dliverey44]

I am not being a smart ass, so don't misunderstand my question. Who's done it currently in the NFL ?

Tristan Wirfs for sure, but I can't think of any others of top of my head.

 

[dliverey44]

JC Latham, came out as Alabama’s right tackle and played left tackle in Tennessee this year, and Wirfs, as Tommy said. And the thing people need to remember with Membou is that he started playing football really late, and he’s still only 20, and a phenomenal athlete.

As far as Membou goes we should get the answer draft night, because the Patriots wont draft him to play right tackle. Same goes for Campbell. They wont draft him to play Guard or right tackle. So if they draft either it will be to play left tackle.

I think that Membou can switch and do well, but history is not on his side. Tennessee signed Dan Moore presumably to play LT.

 

[Lansdowne]

The thing with prospect evaluation is that traits that are expected to translate to the pro level are what get focused on more than actual college production. Bailey Zappe set the all-time single season record for passing yards and touchdowns in the FBS (the highest level of college football). But he did it playing in a mid-major conference (C-USA). He lacked any elite physical traits, and fell to the 4th round in a weak QB class where the only NFL quality starter ended up being the very last player taken in that draft (Brock Purdy). But on the other hand of the spectrum you have a guy like Josh Allen, who also played in a mid-major conference but was drafted 7th overall because despite questions of his performance and competition, he had elite traits that ultimately translated very well at the pro level.

Travis Hunter showed himself to be an excellent player in the Big 12, which while not the best conference in the nation it is still a Power 4 conference. Hunter won awards for being the best overall player (Heisman), best WR in the nation (Biletnikoff), and best defensive player in the nation (Bednarik). Matt Harmon, who does extensive film study and tracks wide receiver performance for a living, tracked Hunter as one of the best WR profiles he’s ever seen. His game should translate very well to the pro level because his ability to track the ball is elite, whether it’s at CB or WR. There are no can’t-miss prospects ever, because anyone can flop, but I like his chances of succeeding, and I can only hope it’s here with us.

 

[Grogan14]

The thing with prospect evaluation is that traits that are expected to translate to the pro level are what get focused on more than actual college production. Bailey Zappe set the all-time single season record for passing yards and touchdowns in the FBS (the highest level of college football). But he did it playing in a mid-major conference (C-USA). He lacked any elite physical traits, and fell to the 4th round in a weak QB class where the only NFL quality starter ended up being the very last player taken in that draft (Brock Purdy). But on the other hand of the spectrum you have a guy like Josh Allen, who also played in a mid-major conference but was drafted 7th overall because despite questions of his performance and competition, he had elite traits that ultimately translated very well at the pro level.

Travis Hunter showed himself to be an excellent player in the Big 12, which while not the best conference in the nation it is still a Power 4 conference. Hunter won awards for being the best overall player (Heisman), best WR in the nation (Biletnikoff), and best defensive player in the nation (Bednarik). Matt Harmon, who does extensive film study and tracks wide receiver performance for a living, tracked Hunter as one of the best WR profiles he’s ever seen. His game should translate very well to the pro level because his ability to track the ball is elite, whether it’s at CB or WR. There are no can’t-miss prospects ever, because anyone can flop, but I like his chances of succeeding, and I can only hope it’s here with us.

Everything you said is spot on, which is why 3 teams will not pass on him.
Unique exceptional talent unmatched by anyone else in this draft.
The idiocy in winning that last game sealed the fact that Pats won’t get him

 

[TheRainMaker]

I would love to take a potential franchise LT, but I'm hearing any guys that could be that. The Pats desperately need a blue chip player who makes an instant impact. We haven't had that since Chandler Jones and Donta Hightower. If they take an OL, they better be sure he has the potential to be that type of player.

 

[billdog3484]

I would love to take a potential franchise LT, but I'm hearing any guys that could be that. The Pats desperately need a blue chip player who makes an instant impact. We haven't had that since Chandler Jones and Donta Hightower. If they take an OL, they better be sure he has the potential to be that type of player.

Problem is there are supposedly only 2 blue chippers and we have the 4th. So nice theory but you can only take what’s available

 

[Love The Drake]

I would love to take a potential franchise LT, but I'm hearing any guys that could be that. The Pats desperately need a blue chip player who makes an instant impact. We haven't had that since Chandler Jones and Donta Hightower. If they take an OL, they better be sure he has the potential to be that type of player.

There a slight possibility one of Carter or Hunter is there.
If Sanders saying he thinks he’s going to the Giant is accurate, then we hit the jackpot, besides Mayo and Milton playing the spoiler.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

OOOK Geeeeee, I'm sorry I told you to FUFK OFF!
You don't like it, I DON'T ****!N CARE

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Hunter, who definitely played VERY WELL, Played against fkn WAITERS.
He didn't play against the BEST Competition, he played against CHUMPS that will probably NOT even get drafted in the first 5 rds.
Yet this guy is called "Generational"
I hear that ******** TERM being used almost every year, and we continually see otherwise.
Trevor, Andrew, MHJ...
IF YOU'RE CONSIDERED GENERATIONAL, you make **** happen.
Maybe Hunter is that 1 in 100, but considering the defenses he played against, I'm not buying it.

Of course Hunter didn't face the best defenders in college football. But neither did Mahomes at Texas Tech. Who were all the studs CeeDee Lamb faced week after week at Oklahoma? Josh Allen at Wyoming?

The NFL is full of great players that didn't come from the SEC or Big 10. And both those conferences have plenty of 1st round picks that faced the best competition in college and did nothing in the pros. It goes both ways.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

The thing with prospect evaluation is that traits that are expected to translate to the pro level are what get focused on more than actual college production. Bailey Zappe set the all-time single season record for passing yards and touchdowns in the FBS (the highest level of college football). But he did it playing in a mid-major conference (C-USA). He lacked any elite physical traits, and fell to the 4th round in a weak QB class where the only NFL quality starter ended up being the very last player taken in that draft (Brock Purdy). But on the other hand of the spectrum you have a guy like Josh Allen, who also played in a mid-major conference but was drafted 7th overall because despite questions of his performance and competition, he had elite traits that ultimately translated very well at the pro level.

Travis Hunter showed himself to be an excellent player in the Big 12, which while not the best conference in the nation it is still a Power 4 conference. Hunter won awards for being the best overall player (Heisman), best WR in the nation (Biletnikoff), and best defensive player in the nation (Bednarik). Matt Harmon, who does extensive film study and tracks wide receiver performance for a living, tracked Hunter as one of the best WR profiles he’s ever seen. His game should translate very well to the pro level because his ability to track the ball is elite, whether it’s at CB or WR. There are no can’t-miss prospects ever, because anyone can flop, but I like his chances of succeeding, and I can only hope it’s here with us.

Yeah, we don't agree, this guy hasn't played against The Major Leagues yet, he's played in double AA, and gotten accolades.
Fabulous.

Of course Hunter didn't face the best defenders in college football. But neither did Mahomes at Texas Tech. Who were all the studs CeeDee Lamb faced week after week at Oklahoma? Josh Allen at Wyoming?

The NFL is full of great players that didn't come from the SEC or Big 10. And both those conferences have plenty of 1st round picks that faced the best competition in college and did nothing in the pros. It goes both ways.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

I knew my post would get blowback, but I'm good with it.
A lot of you guys will probably be correct, I just disagree.
We'll see

 

[WhatJustHappened]

BTW, "GENERATIONAL" is Randy Moss, so good luck with that.

 

[Lansdowne]

BTW, "GENERATIONAL" is Randy Moss, so good luck with that.

Yeah we’ll have to disagree on Hunter’s outlook and that’s fine. I don’t think we’ll end up with him anyway, and I think most of us will be okay with Campbell. Physical concerns aside I feel a lot more comfortable with him at LT than Lowe. He just doesn’t excite me the way a prospect like Alt or Sewell would have. But I agree on pumping the brakes on calling Hunter generational. He’s unique because he’s sort of like Michigan prospect Charles Woodson was but much better at WR than Woodson was but not as good a CB. Moss was generational. Megatron was generational. Chase was generational. I don’t consider Hunter generational, but I still consider him a blue chip prospect and future NFL star. But he’ll be that for the Giants.