Food for thought on the Cassel front

[ctpatsfan77]

For those of you hoping Cassel will sign as a back-up after his inevitable(?) release from the Chiefs. . . . his agent is David Dunn.

The same David Dunn who reps Welker.

Not sure if that means anything, but it is what it is.

 

[Sciz]

Hopefully won't be an issue long term, considering he also reps Dennard, Solder, Vereen, Bequette, and Mallett. (And Hernandez, who won't need any negotiating anytime soon.)

He also reps Brian Waters, so this isn't the first issue between the Pats and one of his clients.

 

[supafly]

I'm not personally seeing the excess of bad blood with Dunn myself.

From what we can gather from reports and Welker's agent, their initial offer was a 2/16 deal (some of the expert capologists here believe that was an extension onto his last remaining year, which would have made his 3 yr aav at approx 6 million).

That went down to a "lessened" offer last May when Welker signed the franchise tag, according to Dunn. I think it's safe to say that it was likely a few million less at about 2/13, or somewhere between their extension offer of a yr before and today's offer of 2/10.

When you factor in DEN's signing price of 2/12 it would certainly seem as though NE was right in the ballpark of what the market value for him was the whole time. Just because Welker didn't agree to a 2/10 offer here and signed a 2/12 offer there shouldn't mean that there had to be a ton of bad blood as far as agents go.

It's quite possible that their bad blood would be with Welker, not Dunn, and even that may be much more limited than we realize. If Dunn is going to hold grudges based on a failed negotiation that's his stupidity. I'm not 100% convinced that Belichick wants Cassel back anyway. We'll have to see.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

It's quite possible that their bad blood would be with Welker, not Dunn, and even that may be much more limited than we realize. If Dunn is going to hold grudges based on a failed negotiation that's his stupidity. I'm not 100% convinced that Belichick wants Cassel back anyway. We'll have to see.

Well, maybe McDaniels does. . . .

 

[Deus Irae]

...If Dunn is going to hold grudges based on a failed negotiation that's his stupidity...

Why? Even if you don't count the team the player is on, there will still be 30 teams that Dunn could shop his players to.

 

[Ring 6]

Why would an agent who negotiates with 2 teams for a players contract have ill feelings toward the one that offered less money? That would eliminate one or more teams every time he has a player sign a contract.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Why would an agent who negotiates with 2 teams for a players contract have ill feelings toward the one that offered less money? That would eliminate one or more teams every time he has a player sign a contract.

I agree ... business is business.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Can't recall any issues the Pats had with agents other than Tom Condon when he rep'd for Watson. To my knowledge that was the last player the Pats have dealt with who had Condon as representation.

Jerome Stanley was a piece of work when he rep'd for Branch but IIRC the Pats and Stanley have done biz together when other players were rep'd by JS.

 

[supafly]

Why? Even if you don't count the team the player is on, there will still be 30 teams that Dunn could shop his players to.

Limiting yourself to certain teams would be considered a terrible business exercise not only in terms of yourself, but in the players that you represent--as it is your job and duty to try to get them the best deals from all 32 teams.

On top of that I highly doubt that either Belichick or Kraft would be stupid or classless enough to make things personal with an agent that represents at least 5-6 other players on the N.England Patriots.

 

[supafly]

Can't recall any issues the Pats had with agents other than Tom Condon when he rep'd for Watson. To my knowledge that was the last player the Pats have dealt with who had Condon as representation.

The Patriots did work with Tom Condon last offseason when they acquired Brandon Llyod.

 

[Tunescribe]

I'm sure David Dunn will be very happy with whichever team can get him the most money for Cassel's services.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The Patriots did work with Tom Condon last offseason when they acquired Brandon Llyod.

Thanks for calling that out. Maybe things between Condon and the Pats were overblown.