Falcons @ Eagles (-1): Who you got/game thread

[Shockt327]

Ryan’s arm looks so weak

Seriously. He looked awful on some of these throws.

 

[rochrist]

19/34 117 yds and a pick for a 50.7 QB rating and he gets interviewed for the idiotic “philly special.”

Again, way to go defense, this moron shredded you.

By all the reports though, he has a really huge ****.

 

[Joker]

please do not EVER hold a goo gee gaa gaa "Matty Ice!" fest on these threads again ..,..you know who you are out there, with your moronic ADHD riddled "I need somebody new!!! I hate that old Brady!! He's boring! He can't run!! He's old!!! waaaah waaah""..takes. Grab your little pack of idiot friends and go hide on some feckless "fantasy!" board somewhere.

 

[catent]

What an insufferable prick. I feel somewhat ****ty saying this, but part of me kind of hopes the dude has a career ending injury and disappears into post-football oblivion sooner rather than later.

Or maybe just a lousy season for Philadelphia? I'll take anything that renders that sack of **** irrelevant. I suppose beggars can't be choosers.

 

[fightingirish595]

Seriously. He looked awful on some of these throws.

Almost every single throw to Julio on the boundary seemed like it fluttered... did he always do that? His throws over the middle seemed fine for the most part. Even some of his throws over the middle to Julio seemed to have a lot of touch on them, or maybe those were week too. Julio must’ve been getting plenty of separation

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Some of it is. If he wants to be in “that” stratosphere the offensive game plan, esp in that situation at the end, is at least partly his responsibility. If he just wants to be a guy who had a couple good years he can blame the coach. Dudes a 10 year vet, not some bum off the street begging for work.

Exactly. Something tells me they regardless of the offensive coordinator, Brady, Brees, or Rodgers would not throw five consecutive uncatchable balls to lose the game. I think Ryan is a lot closer to the middle than he is to the top.

 

[fightingirish595]

What an insufferable prick. I feel somewhat ****ty saying this, but part of me kind of hopes the dude has a career ending injury and disappears into post-football oblivion sooner rather than later.

Or maybe just a lousy season for Philadelphia? I'll take anything that renders that sack of **** irrelevant. I suppose beggars can't be choosers.

If that’s true that’s a major troll job by the eagles

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Matt Ryan had a terrible game. Why in the world did they draft calvin Ridley? Are they gonna use him? Julio was a one man show.

 

[fightingirish595]

Exactly. Something tells me they regardless of the offensive coordinator, Brady, Brees, or Rodgers would not throw five consecutive uncatchable balls to lose the game. I think Ryan is a lot closer to the middle than he is to the top.

You can’t just bring up these “5 un catchable passes” and ignore 35 game winning drives

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

He was pressured on nearly every play at the end. The guy has 35 game winning drives. Something to be said for that. Their entire offense is vanilla and it shows since Shanahan left.

He threw the ball out of the end zone on 4th down only to get bailed out by the refs. He didn’t know that flag was coming when he threw it. That’s unacceptable.

He was 1-8 for 3 yards 0 tds 1 pick inside the 10 tonight. Sark is bad but Ryan is bad too. Put them together and you see the result.

 

[fightingirish595]

He threw the ball out of the end zone on 4th down only to get bailed out by the refs. He didn’t know that flag was coming when he threw it. That’s unacceptable.

He was 1-8 for 3 yards 0 tds 1 pick inside the 10 tonight. Sark is bad but Ryan is bad too. Put them together and you see the result.

Ryan is not bad. He’s not Tom Brady. But he’s not bad. If Matt Ryan is bad, then there’s a lot of guys playing quarterback in the league who don’t belong

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

If that’s true that’s a major troll job by the eagles

The best way to shut him is to win the super bowl. Foles looked ordinary tonight. That’s nick foles. D made foles look like a hall of famer.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Ryan is not bad. He’s not Tom Brady. But he’s not bad. If Matt Ryan is bad, then there’s a lot of guys playing quarterback in the league who don’t belong

There’s definitely a lot of guys playing qb who don’t belong. Ryan is your middle of the road qb. Guy had a career year in 2016. Rest of his career he’s reverted back to a decent but nothing special qb.

 

[Shockt327]

What? Why would you place that ball high and away when Julio had inside leverage. That ball needed to be low where Julio had a chance to catch it in bounds.

This isn't true.

I just watched the replay; Julio was lined up inside in the formation & absolutely did not have inside leverage. ATL's was in a tight 3x2 formation (more room for plays going outside and they lined up Julio on the inside). Philly matched it by playing 3-on-2 (triangle coverage) with the 3rd defender to the inside. So, Philly was absolutely not going to get beat inside. Sure enough, ATL took advantage by having Julio's route go outside, (and ATL's outside WR going inside to pick the 2 inside dbs) and the fade to Julio Jones was a 1-on-1.

Really everything else ATL did sucked (especially the 3 passes before). But that one play wasn't a bad idea. Especially to Julio Jones.

EDIT for video:

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Ryan is not bad. He’s not Tom Brady. But he’s not bad. If Matt Ryan is bad, then there’s a lot of guys playing quarterback in the league who don’t belong

I think pretty much everyone agrees with this.

He is incredibly dependent on Jones and a great game plan. He doesn’t make receivers better. When Jones is out, he looks like a completely different player. That’s why he’s closer to the middle than the top. Probably somewhere around #10 for QBs I’d pick if I could build my team around anyone. Not bad at all - just far away from an elite QB. I think it’s obvious that his 2016 season was very much a reflection of Shanahan and the talent around him.

 

[JMC00]

Again, way to go defense, this moron shredded you.

Oh stop ****ing whining. He also shredded and put 38 points on the best defense (yards, points and 3rd down) in the nfl 2 weeks prior, the Vikings

26 of 33
352 yards
3 TD

He pulled a Flacco.

 

[fightingirish595]

There’s definitely a lot of guys playing qb who don’t belong. Ryan is your middle of the road qb. Guy had a career year in 2016. Rest of his career he’s reverted back to a decent but nothing special qb.

I think once you get past Brady and Rodgers you’re essetially splitting hAirs. Then there’s guys like wentz and Goff who we really haven’t seen enough of to make any legitimate judgements.

I know everyone loves Wilson and as much as a I loved him in college, there’s just something about him I don’t like. I think he try’s do to much and holds on to the ball to long. But he gets away with that because he has escapability like we’ve never seen. I’m not saying he’s overrated necessarily but I don’t see him as being elite from the pocket

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Oh stop ****ing whining. He also shredded and put 38 points on the best defense (yards, points and 3rd down) in the nfl 2 weeks prior, the Vikings

26 of 33
352 yards
3 TD

He pulled a Flacco.

The Vikings losing their top corner really hurt them. I get what you mean but never expected the eagles to drop 41. It was just a meltdown defensively but new season. Hope they have a better year defensively.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I think once you get past Brady and Rodgers you’re essetially splitting hAirs. Then there’s guys like wentz and Goff who we really haven’t seen enough of to make any legitimate judgements.

I know everyone loves Wilson and as much as a I loved him in college, there’s just something about him I don’t like. I think he try’s do to much and holds on to the ball to long. But he gets away with that because he has escapability like we’ve never seen. I’m not saying he’s overrated necessarily but I don’t see him as being elite from the pocket

Wilson’s offense are consistently average to below average in points scored. Even last year during his “amazing season” they scored the same amount of points as an average NFL team. He generally sucks for at least half the game before getting hot.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

This isn't true.

I just watched the replay; Julio was lined up inside in the formation & absolutely did not have inside leverage. ATL's was in a tight 2x2 formation (more room for plays going outside and they lined up Julio on the inside). Philly matched it by playing 3-on-2 (triangle coverage) with the 3rd defender to the inside. So, Philly was absolutely not going to get beat inside. Sure enough, ATL took advantage by having Julio's route go outside, (and ATL's outside WR going inside to pick the 2 inside dbs) and the fade to Julio Jones was a 1-on-1.

Really everything else ATL did sucked (especially the 3 passes before). But that one play wasn't a bad idea. Especially to Julio Jones.

EDIT for video:

He had the outside cb #21 boxed out so to speak. A pass low and outside would’ve been ideal compared to high. Once that pass went high all the defender had to do was pull Julio’s momentum out of the end zone.