ESPN Inisder: Brady the best QB

[upstater1]

Brady isn't even a part of the MVP discussion at this point.

NFL - The year's best and worst QBs - ESPN

As we've been saying, scoring TDs should be weighted more in these considerations. Patriots score a lot of TDs. Bottom line.

 

[Archeryaddict12]

How is this news? He has always been the best and will be #1 ever to play the game once he wins his 4th SB this season.


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[Shockt327]

Makes sense.

Brady is right behind Manning for QBR; because it's not adjusted for competition. But Brady is #1 for DVOA and DYAR, though, because that *is* defense-adjusted. Manning is right behind him at #2, as well. Oh, and when you remove the adjustment for D? Manning is #1. Brady #2.

So, yeah. If the stat adjusts for D, Brady wins it.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Makes sense.

Brady is right behind Manning for QBR; because it's not adjusted for competition. But Brady is #1 for DVOA and DYAR, though, because that *is* defense-adjusted. Manning is right behind him at #2, as well. Oh, and when you remove the adjustment for D? Manning is #1. Brady #2.

So, yeah. If the stat adjusts for D, Brady wins it.

BTW: Brady was #1 in DVOA at Football Outsiders this year.

And in 2010.

And in 2007.

And even in 2009.

 

[Haley]

Media Logic:
Brady is the best QB.
AP is the most valued by his own teammates.
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Give the MVP to Manning. :bricks:

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Media Logic:
Brady is the best QB.
AP is the most valued by his own teammates.
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Give the MVP to Manning. :bricks:

 

[Prefect]

DVOA does value sustaining drives over explosive plays which plays into Brady's strengths. If the offense is on the 50 yard line, Manning would be more likely to score on the next play than Brady, but Brady would be more likely to eventually score on that drive.

 

[bresna]

Brady isn't even a part of the MVP discussion at this point.

NFL - The year's best and worst QBs - ESPN

As we've been saying, scoring TDs should be weighted more in these considerations. Patriots score a lot of TDs. Bottom line.

Unfortunately, the link goes to an "In" story at ESPN that you have to pay for. Was there anything in the article worth noting without violating Ian's "rules of article posting"?

 

[Ring 6]

DVOA does value sustaining drives over explosive plays which plays into Brady's strengths. If the offense is on the 50 yard line, Manning would be more likely to score on the next play than Brady, but Brady would be more likely to eventually score on that drive.

I disagree with Manning being more likely to score from the 50 in one play.

 

[Ring 6]

I disagree with Manning being more likely to score from the 50 in one play.

Manning has 2 50+ TD passes, one of which was a 3 yard pass the Thomas took 71.
Brady has 3 50+ TD passes, plus a 46 yarder.

 

[lurker1965]

Makes sense.

Brady is right behind Manning for QBR; because it's not adjusted for competition. But Brady is #1 for DVOA and DYAR, though, because that *is* defense-adjusted. Manning is right behind him at #2, as well. Oh, and when you remove the adjustment for D? Manning is #1. Brady #2.

So, yeah. If the stat adjusts for D, Brady wins it.

Sorry, you lost me at QBR.

Unlike the NFL passer rating, ESPN has not yet been forthcoming on the exact specific formulas and procedures to calculate QBR.

From the Wikipedia on QBR.

 

[ayjackson]

Sorry, you lost me at QBR.



From the Wikipedia on QBR.

What are you going to do with 10,000 lines of code?

 

[BradyFTW!]

What are you going to do with 10,000 lines of code?

Parse it out, and then point out all of the ways in which it's absolutely crap?

 

[chasa]

Sorry, you lost me at QBR.



From the Wikipedia on QBR.

Its which QB that does good and gets teh best ratings, as in tv ratings.

Thus why Tebow has the highest QBR in history

 

[BradyManny]

Denver closed some gaps as the season went on, but New England is still far more efficient:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2012 DRIVE STATS

Brady's offense scores half a point more per drive than Manning's. Basically 5 points a game. (Note: this stat is adjusted for offense only, Manning's D & ST scored more)