Eagles release S Jarrad Page.

[Dutchmaster617]

Lol ok like my disclaimer said I'm sorry. Tough to judge sometimes without being able to recognize the tone of a statement.

But on a side note I do agree with what you said about Sanders, it would be nice to have his veteran leadership, and idc if he's "lost a step" it would be great to have back there right about now.

But there's no way o would never want to lose a playoff game just because I dislike the fact that we are starting a player I think sucks. That's just crazy talk!

In all fairness we would still lose with Brown, only it would be in the final seconds, too much on the heart.

 

[mgteich]

Page may be injured.

Otherwise, I believe the question is whether to put in a waiver claim or wait a day to have him come in for a talk.

We thought that he was worth a 2nd round waiver claim. Belichick wouldn't pay the price Philly offerred. Belichick moved on to Barrett and Brown. Page should at least get a look, since both these options didn't work out.

1) We usually carry 9 DB's, one of which plays only special teams. Sergio Brown has that spot locked down. The special teamer could be beaten out for reps by another special team like Niko, since he is useless as a safety.

2) We currently have 8 DB's on the squad, including a street free agent corner who started at safety for us last week.

3) We could us a 9th defensive back, who might actually be able to play safety if needed. I might note that Chung is injured (and McCourty). Page would have gotten reps last week. Brown was useless.

4) With the injuries at ILB, we could use a player who is useful in run support,

 

[Dutchmaster617]

Brown pllayed zero snaps at safety last week

Is there a correlation between that and a 21 point victory? Maybe we finally figured it out.

 

[alvinnf]

Page played on ST last year. It's not like Brown is Bill Bates!

 

[Jscar28]

Ill take him over Brown anyday...jus bring him back in a reserve role

 

[RayClay]

I think the unfulfilled promise of Josh Barrett was one of the reasons BB let Merriweather and Sanders go. However giving the injury situation we have in the defensive Backfield makes Page a no brainer to bring back.

I've heard reports that money was the main reason he didn't resign here. But now that wouldn't be the case. He's at least familiar with the system and semantics. You might not think he's the "answer" to our Safety issues, but his certainly would be an improvement over what we have playing there now.

I read it was more a chance to start (money is nice too, I'm sure). at the time we were very deep at safety.

As has been said, they were ready to tender him a round two before the rules changed, so maybe they like him.

 

[RayClay]

Right now we are morphing back to our old smurf style of secondary people. At the start of the season 6 of the 9 defensive backs were 6'+ now I don't think we have 3. Even when Chung gets back, we will have 2 5'10 Safeties making them a prime target for bigger TEs and WRs. 5'10 180lb S's are going to do the trick

Don't forget Moldin, he's over 6 ft....never mind, the sooner forgotten, the better.:bricks:

 

[DefenseRules]

When was the last time the Pats went through an entire season with a healthy secondary? I can't remember.:bricks:

 

[Ring 6]

There's a reason for that.

Tracy White is a ST'er who is adequate enough to see PT while Brown is not @ a thin position just like ILB is. [

White only plays when there is no one else, like Izzo did.

We need guys who can give us something there imo. I like Brown on ST only but we don't have that luxury with safety being as thin as it is.

We needed him for zero snaps without Chung INactive.

 

[Ring 6]

Is there a correlation between that and a 21 point victory? Maybe we finally figured it out.

Well since the 2 things happened together, by definition, there is a correlation, just as there would be with Spikes not playing.
I don't know what that has to do with which player would be a better special teamer though.

 

[Ring 6]

Page may be injured.

Otherwise, I believe the question is whether to put in a waiver claim or wait a day to have him come in for a talk.

We thought that he was worth a 2nd round waiver claim.

Lets not overrate this 2nd round waiver claim thing. The rules were different this year than in the past. Its not like we offered a 2nd for him. If anyone has the RFA rules and differences this year during the lockout, please post.

Belichick wouldn't pay the price Philly offerred. Belichick moved on to Barrett and Brown. Page should at least get a look, since both these options didn't work out.

If I remember right, that price was not very high.

1) We usually carry 9 DB's, one of which plays only special teams. Sergio Brown has that spot locked down. The special teamer could be beaten out for reps by another special team like Niko, since he is useless as a safety.

Niko is a LB not a safety

2) We currently have 8 DB's on the squad, including a street free agent corner who started at safety for us last week.

3) We could us a 9th defensive back, who might actually be able to play safety if needed. I might note that Chung is injured (and McCourty). Page would have gotten reps last week. Brown was useless.

Why would Page have gotten reps last week?

4) With the injuries at ILB, we could use a player who is useful in run support,

Not sure I get this one

 

[Ring 6]

The fact that BB thought Ventrone was a better option than Brown on Sunday is telling. Especially when he cuts Ventrone and keeps Brown. That tells me that Brown DOES have some value as a special teamer, but has no business being on the field in a regular D. At this point I'd much rather have Slater or Edelman thrown in there over Brown,

Thats silly. You are basing this on a few, at most a handful of plays, and now are saying essentially a guy who never played defense is better. Thats ridiculous.

The addition of Page makes too much sense. He is familiar with the defensive schemes and semantics. He has good size at the position, something we sadly lack, and has proven to be a good guy in the box.

If he is as good as you think, we should sign him. I just think you are very much overrating him.

Certainly he doesn't solve our coverage issues at the position, but even with his obvious limitations he is an immediate improvement over what we currently have. We NEED to add another S, if not Page.....who?

Apparently Moore.

 

[Seacoast Fan]

No. Brown made bad plays in those 2 games, he didn't 'cost us the games'

Bad plays? YoU sure he wasn't just unlucky a few times?

 

[shmessy]

Thats ridiculous, but its kind of hard to get excited about a guy we could have kept and chose not, ......

What are you talking about????

It's been pointed out to you several times by several posters in this thread that the Patriots most certainly DID want him - - and tendered him at the 2nd round level.

You keep repeating that "they didn't want him" crap. You know full well that is not true.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

Page may be injured.

Otherwise, I believe the question is whether to put in a waiver claim or wait a day to have him come in for a talk.

We thought that he was worth a 2nd round waiver claim. Belichick wouldn't pay the price Philly offerred. Belichick moved on to Barrett and Brown. Page should at least get a look, since both these options didn't work out.

1) We usually carry 9 DB's, one of which plays only special teams. Sergio Brown has that spot locked down. The special teamer could be beaten out for reps by another special team like Niko, since he is useless as a safety.

2) We currently have 8 DB's on the squad, including a street free agent corner who started at safety for us last week.

3) We could us a 9th defensive back, who might actually be able to play safety if needed. I might note that Chung is injured (and McCourty). Page would have gotten reps last week. Brown was useless.

4) With the injuries at ILB, we could use a player who is useful in run support,

A second round waiver claim? They tendered him at the second round level as a restricted free agent but he became unrestricted with the new CBA. A waiver claim is an entirely different thing. He signed a one year $735,000 contract that included a 50k signing bonus so if the want him they should claim, they'd only be on the hook for the prorated amount of 685k, about 300k. I say claim him and cut Brown.

 

[mgteich]

And neither is Brown.

As you have pointed out, Brown is a special teamer, not a safety. And alll have agreed. No one wants to see Sergio Brown getting any reps at safety. Belichick would sooner play Ventrone if one of the real safeties were injured, which he did on Sunday.

Page should be signed if he is healthy. And we should cut on of the special teamers, either Brown or Niko. I can see keeping Niko for now given the injuries, but he is at the bottom of the roster.

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Niko is a LB not a safety

 

[jbb9s]

Brandon McGowan?

 

[DocHoliday]

If they wanted him he would still be a Patriot. The fact that he's not is the only proof I need. Furthermore, I've been scouting him and his skill set is not ideal for the schemes that we are running.

ok.

 

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[TheBostonStraggler]

The analysis disregards something BB covets, attitude and dedication. I don't know Page's level of dedication or whether he has or doesn't have a poor attitude. However, anyone who has been following the team since 2001 knows BB will take the less talented guy who has those two qualities. I suspect, admittedly based not on fact but simply a hunch, BB made some of these head scratching cuts and has put unknowns/castoffs on the 53 man roster based on these two qualities or lack thereof.

If Page is a guy who was dedicated and willing to do what the coaches asked, I would think he would be a positive addition. If these two qualities were in question and this is part of the reason he did not remain on the Patriots, I don't want him near the Patriots roster. At this point it appears the Patriots are stacked with dedicated, team first guys (buh bye Haynesworth). I'd rather see what we can do with the type guys.

For instance, say what you want about his lack of production, Ocho Cinco's utter lack of production and lack of spotlight now as compared to most of his career, I would have thought that would be a chemistry problem. However, he has really shown something by not being problematic while putting forth max. effort to improve within the Patriot system.