Drake Maye has arrived . . .

[DoubleDeluxe]

If Allen won the MVP in 2023, he doesn't win last year. I think voters felt he got the short stick from the year prior. So they kind of leaned toward him. There was also a fatigue imo where Lamar won two MVP's in like four years. I think Lamar deserved it last year.

This is how I think too. But do voters?

I have seen interviews with different MVP voters over the years, and without actually saying it, they have alluded to voting for "new blood" so to speak.
At the end of the day they are people and fans like the rest of us. They are supposed to be purely objective, but they most certainly are not. Case in point is some years when a guy wins the MVP that clearly isn't the favourite, and leaves the masses scratching their heads.

 

[NFL Mystique]

I have seen interviews with different MVP voters over the years, and without actually saying it, they have alluded to voting for "new blood" so to speak.
At the end of the day they are people and fans like the rest of us. They are supposed to be purely objective, but they most certainly are not. Case in point is some years when a guy wins the MVP that clearly isn't the favourite, and leaves the masses scratching their heads.

This approach would be great. But I suppose it could also work against guys who are consistently great. Maybe. Like you don't want to not vote for a guy just because he has won already. Happy medium type thing.

LeBron James has four MVP awards in his 22 years in the league. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he probably should have won more than that.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

This approach would be great. But I suppose it could also work against guys who are consistently great. Maybe. Like you don't want to not vote for a guy just because he has won already. Happy medium type thing.

LeBron James has four MVP awards in his 22 years in the league. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he probably should have won more than that.

Yup, and you could easily argue Brady should have more than 3 reg season MVPs.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Yup, and you could easily argue Brady should have more than 3 reg season MVPs.

FWIW, remember that Brady became the first unanimous MVP in 2010. He almost got it in 2007, but someone somehow decided that Lord Favrequad was more deserving.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

FWIW, remember that Brady became the first unanimous MVP in 2010. He almost got it in 2007, but someone somehow decided that Lord Favrequad was more deserving.

This emphasizes how voters are not nearly as objective as they should be.
They all have likes and biases, and it clearly sways some voters.
Always has, always will.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Yup, and you could easily argue Brady should have more than 3 reg season MVPs.

2016, 2011 and 2021 immediately come to mind.

 

[lancerman]

I have seen interviews with different MVP voters over the years, and without actually saying it, they have alluded to voting for "new blood" so to speak.
At the end of the day they are people and fans like the rest of us. They are supposed to be purely objective, but they most certainly are not. Case in point is some years when a guy wins the MVP that clearly isn't the favourite, and leaves the masses scratching their heads.

This has been a thing. People get sick of giving the same people accolades. Unless it’s Peyton Manning, then they just give him the MVP unless someone pried it away from him in an undeniable way (03, 08, 09)

 

[lancerman]

2016, 2011 and 2021 immediately come to mind.

2014 I feel like the game where we lost to the Packers won it for Rodgers.

2016 was mostly because of the suspension. Ryan was also having his breakout.

2011 is tough. Rodgers had an all time efficiency year and Brees was also playing out of his mind and neither of them won yet.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

This has been a thing. People get sick of giving the same people accolades. Unless it’s Peyton Manning, then they just give him the MVP unless someone pried it away from him in an undeniable way (03, 08, 09)

And let's not forget we were the most hated team in the league for 20 years, with an A-hole coach and a few scandals. You can't tell me that didn't sway some MVP voters to write down a name other than Brady.

 

[patfanken]

I just read the last 10 pages or so. The QB school was especially informative. My observations after? 1. We have an EXCELLENT QB prospect among the best in the league. 2. There is room for improvement. He is still very young will limited reps and will benefit a lot from things like more familiarity with his teammates, improved roster (on both sides of the ball), overall maturity (as he grows into his mid to late 20's he will get stronger, bigger, and emotionally more mature). Finally, as he sees more and more varied defenses and attempts to stop him, he will no better what do and be fool less and less. 3. He is not perfect, as O'Sullivan points out, and will disappoint us now and then, but it doesn't chance the QB he has the chance to be in the long run.

It is good to be us. Drake Maye HAS arrived and the NFL as a whole just better get used to it.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

This has been a thing. People get sick of giving the same people accolades. Unless it’s Peyton Manning, then they just give him the MVP unless someone pried it away from him in an undeniable way (03, 08, 09)

kinda opposite is all star votings, household names usually gets the honor even its a down year

 

[TinhWoodhead]

FWIW, remember that Brady became the first unanimous MVP in 2010. He almost got it in 2007, but someone somehow decided that Lord Favrequad was more deserving.

Ichiro hof voter too

 

[n1997y]

Brady had at least one almost every year.

Drake already had Pittsburgh so hopefully he’s done with that for the year already. Could work in his favor because it was before the spotlight got turned up so high.

 

[Uptown]

Yup, and you could easily argue Brady should have more than 3 reg season MVPs.

At least 5

 

[TommyD4207]

He will only win MVP if his stats are way better than Mayfield or Mahomes. Normally they go with the known and/or established guy if it's somewhat close. Not saying that is fair. It's just how voters look at things. Bad games will affect him more than the others. And inevitably he will have a terrible game or two. Every QB does. If you think about this is his first real season. Last year was a write-off with atrocious support and coaching. Despite him still having good stats.

Also, if the Patriots get a run game going, he won't accumulate the stats needed. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing where the Patriots need the run to work.

Also, the SB winner usually doesn't have the MVP QB. I wonder if that is because they throw so much during the year. So some tiredness combined with defenses catching up and forcing a run game come playoff time. SB 42 is an example. A better run game/trying to run more wins them that game easily. Instead, they wanted to air it out and win like they always had been. Despite the elite DL on the other side.

Maybe. If the Patriots somehow end up winning 11 or 12 games and the division, and Maye continues to play at this level, it will be a tough story to ignore. In my own opinion, Mayfield would have to fall off a cliff to not get it at this point. (Although don't sleep on Jonathan Taylor, if his epic carry-job continues in Indy)

Then again, Jackson dwarfed Allen's numbers last year, and still lost the MVP to him, so who knows.

 

[ZoisKing]

At least 5

IIRC, Brady finished in the top 2 of MVP voting 9 times.

 

[Uptown]

H-I-M!!!!!!!!!
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[Uptown]

 

[VrabelJr]

530 NFL draft prospects isn't that much when you think about it. That tweet would be more impressive if it were from 2024.

 

[TB12GOATQB]

FWIW, remember that Brady became the first unanimous MVP in 2010. He almost got it in 2007, but someone somehow decided that Lord Favrequad was more deserving.

Brady didn't get MVP in 07? That's wild. Didn't remember.