RayClay
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We've traded down (or packaged other picks/players) into round two for extra picks a few years. There have been a good number of injuries/busts as has been noted.
My contention has been that BB sees a low 1st rounder as less than a guarantee and not likely, with 1 pick, to yield a great, rather than good player. Multiple pick years were 2009,2010,2011,2013. Multiple picks allowed him to risk on injured players, athletes with less production, unbalanced (great potential, great weakness) etc. as well as some guys who were 2nd round picks (Spikes).
If somebody wants to tabulate all the trades involved, that would be great but, knowing we pick low every year, I'll start with the highlights of the shotgun approach and we know the ;low lights. (Brace etc. etc.).
In my do over, Gronkowski, a very risky pick we might not have made with a low 1st instead of 3 2nds, is easily a top 5 overall any year.
Jamie Collins, might be a little early, but I'd put him top 15 in my ignorant guesstimate (as i don't analyze college players/drafts. You put him where you want.
Vollmer would be a first IMO. Maybe better than Solder and i'm confident he could start at LT in this league if necessary.
Pat Chung is a solid starter IMO. Maybe the same spot in round 2, but not a bust.
If anyone wants to do the math, I'd be curious to see what we gave up to get a top 5 top 15 and probably mid 1st (IMO, that's Gronk, collins and Vollmer) plus a couple = their spot Spikes, Chung and busts/injuries. Might have missed some that don't fit in the last category, so fill in if you think so.
We weren't likely getting three mid to high picks at the bottom of the 1st is my point here.
Thoughts?
My contention has been that BB sees a low 1st rounder as less than a guarantee and not likely, with 1 pick, to yield a great, rather than good player. Multiple pick years were 2009,2010,2011,2013. Multiple picks allowed him to risk on injured players, athletes with less production, unbalanced (great potential, great weakness) etc. as well as some guys who were 2nd round picks (Spikes).
If somebody wants to tabulate all the trades involved, that would be great but, knowing we pick low every year, I'll start with the highlights of the shotgun approach and we know the ;low lights. (Brace etc. etc.).
In my do over, Gronkowski, a very risky pick we might not have made with a low 1st instead of 3 2nds, is easily a top 5 overall any year.
Jamie Collins, might be a little early, but I'd put him top 15 in my ignorant guesstimate (as i don't analyze college players/drafts. You put him where you want.
Vollmer would be a first IMO. Maybe better than Solder and i'm confident he could start at LT in this league if necessary.
Pat Chung is a solid starter IMO. Maybe the same spot in round 2, but not a bust.
If anyone wants to do the math, I'd be curious to see what we gave up to get a top 5 top 15 and probably mid 1st (IMO, that's Gronk, collins and Vollmer) plus a couple = their spot Spikes, Chung and busts/injuries. Might have missed some that don't fit in the last category, so fill in if you think so.
We weren't likely getting three mid to high picks at the bottom of the 1st is my point here.
Thoughts?