MossWelkowski
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Wow and you have been known to be pessimistic if I remember right..
Hopefully this causes SB tickets to drop for me
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Wow and you have been known to be pessimistic if I remember right..
But in what way could they even prove that we had done it in the past? Players from others team have admitted to doing the exact same thing. So I don't see why we would get punished for past games if there is no clear evidence AND other teams are admitting to doing so.Because we could have been doing it in the past as well. Yeah I'm sure there are teams that do it but we will be the ones who are made an example of. It's the way it is and if all is true...the team cheated and there is no one else to blame.
I actually like this... You know the pats are gonna be pumped up even more now
It was at directed at point 2 and your assertion that we needed a log of the refs testing the balls prior to the game. I find it hard to believe that the refs are alone with the balls and pressure gauges during this. If they say that they were tested prior to the game and the balls were in compliance, I'd tend to believe it (until I hear otherwise). The question then becomes, what happened between the testing and halftime that caused the balls to lose pressure (i.e. ballboy deflating balls, faulty original testing gauge, weather conditions, etc.). Trying to be a realist here.I'm not sure what point that is directed at? Are you talking about half time testing or pre-game? Pre-game I'm sure they test them on the field. Again, the question is how thorough is the test? Do they actually measure PSI or just feel the balls and if they think they are off test? The latter is much more efficient and likely what is done.
God, I'm a Pats fan but
I agree
lol, dude, you want to argue on what they should do ? lol
You're funny. So how do you suppose this goes? We argue and then you declare yourself the winner and the NFL follows what you want? Get real. I'm stating a fact. The NFL has no legal obligation. It only needs to answer to its owners.
As much as I wish you'd be right, it's not happening.Cared before the news that 2nd half balls were definitely legal. Now I would guess the heat will subside.
The Patriots used 12 backup footballs for the second half of Sunday’s AFC championship game after issues were found with most of the original 12 balls used by the offense in the first half, an organizational source told WEEI.com.
Team spokesman Stacey James confirmed to WEEI.com that the team had 24 footballs available, 12 of which were tested by the officials pregame and another dozen stored inside as backups.
After the officials found that the majority of the balls used in the first half were below the acceptable PSI as mandated by the NFL, the backup balls were brought in. According to the source, the backup balls were tested and found to be at the correct levels, and subsequently put into play — just barely in time, as the second half already had started by the time the testing was completed. This is why the officials stopped play and swapped out the kicking ball on the first play from scrimmage of the second half.
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported late Tuesday night that 11 of the 12 game balls were underinflated. WEEI.com’s source recalled either 10 or 11 balls being a problem.
For more Patriots news, visit the team page at weei.com/patriots.
As much as I wish you'd be right, it's not happening.
The issue still remains that the balls in the first half were supposedly under inflated, and that's why people are concerned.
The story is gathering TONS of new attention as the days go on....not less.
Huh? Once NE discovered the officials mistake they rectified the problem. Obviously they did better with legal balls. Do you understand me?
Because you're not asking for proof. You're asking for definitive proof. They only need to satisfy their owners. They can do what they want. You're the one making statements about what they have to prove. If they owners were okay with it, they could declare the Patriots out of the Super Bowl at any point for any reason they feel is okay. Now, in reality they can't, but saying they have to meet some legal requirement is nonsense.We argue about what? I'm simply asking you how this is going to go if you don't think there needs to be proof that someone tampered with balls before action is taken. It's a simple question, not sure how that was misconstrued.
If that's true, it means the refs are lying about having weighed the balls to proper specs prior to the game.No. I'm clinging to fact Pats very likely submitted balls around 11-11.5 psi. I think this is how Brady prefers them and think they have been doing this for a long time. Refs inspected balls and allowed them because it's a pedantic rule and they are lackadaisical and they also know it really doesn't matter.
Where did youBalls in the 2nd half were legal and once notified the Pats corrected the mistake made by officials not them.
Where is the proof the Pats tampered and performance indicates legal balls were great. What is the motive here?
Bunch of BS this is.
Problem is we've already had leaks today saying that the refs tested the footballs pre-game and that the NE footballs were within the legal 12.5-13.5 PSI range when they were tested.
Really? I haven't seen that yet, I'd think it would be huge news. If that is the case, the Pats are ****ed big time, case closed.
Again it does NOT matter if the balls had no impact on the outcome. If rules were broken as assumed, then the Pats made a huge blunder and it looks very damning.http://m.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21901571/source-pats-switched-backup-balls-2nd-half
Pats still win 28-7 if you take away the 1st half points.
Colts still suck.
Ok gotcha. Yeah well it hinges on what a pre-game "test" constitutes. If they are just hand checking balls and only testing ones that feel off, the Pats are in good shape.It was at directed at point 2 and your assertion that we needed a log of the refs testing the balls prior to the game. I find it hard to believe that the refs are alone with the balls and pressure gauges during this. If they say that they were tested prior to the game and the balls were in compliance, I'd tend to believe it (until I hear otherwise). The question then becomes, what happened between the testing and halftime that caused the balls to lose pressure (i.e. ballboy deflating balls, faulty original testing gauge, weather conditions, etc.). Trying to be a realist here.
Do you have a link to this? I still have read nothing to that effect.It's all over the news. The refs claim they weighed the balls and they were fine prior to the game.