Deadspin:Patriots Brandon Meriweather Allegedly involved in shooting of two men

[PatsWickedPissah]

Thanks, that pretty much sums up my thoughts. Of course Brandon Meriweather has a right to go there. The better, smarter decision would have been to go home.

What any of us do today or when we were in our twenties in comparison to what Meriweather does is irrelevant. If one of us is at a party and a fight breaks out it's not going to make the back page of the local newspaper, much less make headlines across the country. My decision to attend a party is not going to potentially cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars that I currently have coming my way in the next ten months. My going to a party is not going to result in infamy for my employer.

Like it or not players get held to a higher standard than the rest of us do in terms of all their off-field actions and words. Most players understand that and act accordingly; some don't.

Spot on. He should have simply hired a limo, gone to another club and done some harmless stage diving.

 

[Raymond]

I guess I am just Mr. Wild then. I have been out after 2am without my wife in the past, and I even was drinking.

You really sound like an old fuddy duddy. Are you 80 or something? Does your religion keep you from attending parties with women? Is drinking allowed? Do women have to have their heads covered when they go out in public?

Listen if he shot the people and he wasn't being threatened or protecting his friend then all bets are off.

If, however, during the off season, he is at a party without his wife after 2am in the town where he grew up then he has done absolutely nothing wrong, end of story. Save the sanctimonious clap trap for your weekly church choir practice.

Here here.

 

[shmessy]

I guess I am just Mr. Wild then. I have been out after 2am without my wife in the past, and I even was drinking.

You really sound like an old fuddy duddy. Are you 80 or something? Does your religion keep you from attending parties with women? Is drinking allowed? Do women have to have their heads covered when they go out in public?

Listen if he shot the people and he wasn't being threatened or protecting his friend then all bets are off.

If, however, during the off season, he is at a party without his wife after 2am in the town where he grew up then he has done absolutely nothing wrong, end of story. Save the sanctimonious clap trap for your weekly church choir practice.

How many parties have you been to where people have been shot?

Look, no one (at least not me) is saying the guy is a criminal.

But here are the facts:

1) He's very talented and a great hitter
2) He takes lousy angles
3) He's been benched several times for not playing in the system he was coached
4) He's up for a new contract next year
5) He SOMEHOW made the Pro-Bowl in 2010
6) Given the down to earth guy he is (sarcasm dripping over the bowl) he is going to demand "Dan Snyder-type" money
7) It would have been nice to get a 2nd rounder out of Snyder, JJones or Crazy Al before Brandon's "environment" grabbed more headlines.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

Thanks, that pretty much sums up my thoughts. Of course Brandon Meriweather has a right to go there. The better, smarter decision would have been to go home.

What any of us do today or when we were in our twenties in comparison to what Meriweather does is irrelevant. If one of us is at a party and a fight breaks out it's not going to make the back page of the local newspaper, much less make headlines across the country. My decision to attend a party is not going to potentially cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars that I currently have coming my way in the next ten months. My going to a party is not going to result in infamy for my employer.

Like it or not players get held to a higher standard than the rest of us do in terms of all their off-field actions and words. Most players understand that and act accordingly; some don't.

True

Except the fight was between two family members.

There is a fundamental difference between being out with relatives vs strangers.

What exactly do you tell your less well off relatives?

 

[Mogamedogz]

I guess I am just Mr. Wild then. I have been out after 2am without my wife in the past, and I even was drinking.

You really sound like an old fuddy duddy. Are you 80 or something? Does your religion keep you from attending parties with women? Is drinking allowed? Do women have to have their heads covered when they go out in public?

Listen if he shot the people and he wasn't being threatened or protecting his friend then all bets are off.

If, however, during the off season, he is at a party without his wife after 2am in the town where he grew up then he has done absolutely nothing wrong, end of story. Save the sanctimonious clap trap for your weekly church choir practice.

Yea skip... you really have me pegged.

You're right... his decision to attend that after party was sound. He's not a psychic, how could he have known that something like this could potentially happen? Just a few of the old homies from the hood getting together for a game of scrabble and cookies after one of them beat the **** out of a woman at the local thug dive. What could go wrong?

 

[Mogamedogz]

How many parties have you been to where people have been shot?

Look, no one (at least not me) is saying the guy is a criminal.

But here are the facts:

1) He's very talented and a great hitter
2) He takes lousy angles
3) He's been benched several times for not playing in the system he was coached
4) He's up for a new contract next year
5) He SOMEHOW made the Pro-Bowl in 2010
6) Given the down to earth guy he is (sarcasm dripping over the bowl) he is going to demand "Dan Snyder-type" money
7) It would have been nice to get a 2nd rounder out of Snyder, JJones or Crazy Al before Brandon's "environment" grabbed more headlines.

Im not either... im just saying he's a dumbass.

 

[Boston Boxer]

if you lay with dogs, you are going to get fleas

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Cousins of Meriweather were on both sides of the fight.


The cast:

- Quentin Taylor (Meriweather's cousin) - shot in mouth
- Nico Stanley (friend of Taylor) - person whom shot was allegedly fired at (that instead struck Taylor)
- Cedric Payne (another cousin of Meriweather)
- Michael Simmons (friend of Nico Stanley)
- Valerie Griffin (Nico Stanley's godmother)
- Ebone Stanley (sister of Nico Stanley)
- Cajun Peterson (owner of car E Stanley was driving)
- India Ware (passenger in car)
- Sean Peterson (passenger, suspected of owning handgun found in car)
- An Unknown Witness (told story to Globe)
- Anton Massey (alleged shooter)
- Adam Swickle (Meriweather's lawyer)
- John Morgan (Taylor and Stanley's lawyer)
- Dan Sileo (radio talk show host who first made story public)
- Harold Cummings (police officer)
- Steven Harmon (police officer)

- First there was a fight at closing time that involved Payne and Ebone Stanley.
- Later Nico Stanley and Quentin Taylor beat up Payne.
- Meriweather tried to break up that fight.
- A shot was fired by someone - the unknown witness says it was Anton Massey - that was supposed to be aimed for Nico Stanley. It grazed him and caused the injury to Quentin Taylor.
- Michael Simmons and Valerie Griffin drive Stanley and Taylor to hospital.
- Officers Cummings and Harmon pull over car driven by Ebone Stanley (the girl roughed up by Payne); a gun and forty rounds of ammunition were found. The two Petersons are also related to one of the gunshot victims. Maybe both, it's hard to tell who's related to whom at this point.
- Sileo starts talking about story; Deadspin picks it up.
- Taylor and Stanley engage the services of Morgan.
- Unknown Witness tells Globe reporters that Anton Massey was the person that fired the gun.
- Swickle points out no allegations against Meriweather; will have BM talk to local police.

I know! I know!

It was the Butler...in the Parlor...with the 57 Magnum....

 

[Deus Irae]

"required" is the key word there, I think.

To me, it comes down to judgment. Here's a highly paid NFL player who, according to Miguel, is due to collect somewhere around two million next season. We can argue all we want over how good he might or might not be, but he's only been in the league four years and has gone to the Pro Bowl twice. He's just 26 and stands to collect nice paychecks for another bunch of years either with the Pats or somewhere else.

The more I read, the more I think it's reasonable to ask whether a guy with that profile shouldn't have the good judgment not to hang out at a bar like that late at night when there's trouble around.

"required" to go home? Hardly. "Smart idea" to get lost? Yeah, I think so.

Based upon what we currently know, what Meriweather did was perfectly reasonable. He left the bar when there was trouble.

 

[Joker]

think I'm gonna stay away from towns called I'llpopya in future visits to the Sunshine state...

 

[italia44]

In a hundred years,we've gone from Emile Zola and Alfred Dreyfus........to this debauchery.

What a world:bricks:

 

[Mogamedogz]

think I'm gonna stay away from towns called I'llpopya in future visits to the Sunshine state...

AHHHH GRAMPS!!! You buggin'... the girlz be poppin round da way...keep your grill clean and yo Chopper locked and loaded...and you be straight yo! Keep it real.

 

[Frezo]

IMO when someone signs an employment contract that contains a code of conduct clause he needs to understand that his employer will hold him to a higher standard than his buddies will be. BM is hanging with a crowd of people that will take greater legal risks than he can. In fact he doesn't even need to be found guilty of anything to be disciplined by Goodell. If he is placing his commitment to the Hood over money...fine. I can respect that.

 

[Triumph]

How many parties have you been to where people have been shot?

Look, no one (at least not me) is saying the guy is a criminal.

But here are the facts:

1) He's very talented and a great hitter
2) He takes lousy angles
3) He's been benched several times for not playing in the system he was coached
4) He's up for a new contract next year
5) He SOMEHOW made the Pro-Bowl in 2010
6) Given the down to earth guy he is (sarcasm dripping over the bowl) he is going to demand "Dan Snyder-type" money
7) It would have been nice to get a 2nd rounder out of Snyder, JJones or Crazy Al before Brandon's "environment" grabbed more headlines.

Couldnt agree more.

Its not that difficult to stay out of trouble. Deal him now.

 

[moosekill]

As far as I know, this is BM's first problem since he joined the league. The latest story clears him of any wrong doings. He went to a cowboy bar that was having hip hop night. Then after a fight broke out he left and went to a buddies house for a party.

No matter what you say, you can't make this sound wrong to me, because everything he did was reasonable. I would have done it, you would have done it, that is what a reasonable person would have done. (other than listening to hip hop)

The NFL won't come down on him, he won't get in trouble, nothing will come of this. It is only a story because an ambulance chaser was hired to shake him down for money.

Oh, I never saw a guy shot, but I did leave a bar an hour before someone was stabbed to death, and after I left that bar, I went to another bar and hung out for a while, before I went to the hotel bar. I think I got in around 1:30 and there were women at all the bars I went to. Does that make me a bad man?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

In a hundred years,we've gone from Emile Zola and Alfred Dreyfus........to this debauchery.

What a world:bricks:

And the Dreyfus affair is relevant, how, exactly?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Couldnt agree more.

Its not that difficult to stay out of trouble. Deal him now.

Your posts say more about you than they do about Meriweather.

 

[Triumph]

Your posts say more about you than they do about Meriweather.

Is Meri your binky?

 

[BradyFTW!]

Re: Deadspinatriots Safety Brandon Meriweather Allegedly Guns Down Two Men During B

Gawker sites aren't exactly the mecca of credibility. They're trashier than gossip columnists.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Is Meri your binky?

No, but he is a guy who apparently acted pretty reasonably throughout the night in question. Get over yourself.