Deadspin:Patriots Brandon Meriweather Allegedly involved in shooting of two men

[jmt57]

So, now it's poor judgement to hang out with family? Seriously?

Sorry, but the only poor judgement was shown by the imbecile who drew the gun and ended up shooting his buddy.

From what I am have read there was a melee at the club near closing time, about 1:00 am. Rather than head home Meriweather then went to a house party. I would say that decision could be considered poor judgement.

When you add in the (alleged) fact that the fight involved one of Meriweather's cousins getting into a physical confrontation with a woman, you could also consider (a) the type of people he is choosing to spend his time with, and (b) his not considering that the situation was not finished.

I don't know if the cousin hit the woman, pushed her, or what, but it is apparent there was some kind of physical contact between the two that started the whole incident. A person in Meriweather's position would be better off walking away and distancing himself from the situation. He didn't, which is why I commented that it seemed like there was poor judgement by Meriweather in the situation.

It's not like he was at an afternoon cookout with his extended family. There were warning signs that warranted a "nothing good happens at 2:00 a.m." type of consideration. After the fight at the club he should have chosen to go home rather than continue to party.

 

[Deus Irae]

From what I am have read there was a melee at the club near closing time, about 1:00 am. Rather than head home Meriweather then went to a house party. I would say that decision could be considered poor judgement.

When you add in the (alleged) fact that the fight involved one of Meriweather's cousins getting into a physical confrontation with a woman, you could also consider (a) the type of people he is choosing to spend his time with, and (b) his not considering that the situation was not finished.

I don't know if the cousin hit the woman, pushed her, or what, but it is apparent there was some kind of physical contact between the two that started the whole incident. A person in Meriweather's position would be better off walking away and distancing himself from the situation. He didn't, which is why I commented that it seemed like there was poor judgement by Meriweather in the situation.

It's not like he was at an afternoon cookout with his extended family. There were warning signs that warranted a "nothing good happens at 2:00 a.m." type of consideration. After the fight at the club he should have chosen to go home rather than continue to party.

According to the story so far, they left the problem location and went elsewhere. That's the smart thing to do. It's not on Meriweather that the someone followed them to the new location.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

2 offseasons in a row for Patriots named Brandon

Last year a Brandon (Spikes) using his pistol on another in a video.

This year another Brandon using a pistol on another.


Will these Brandon events ever end?

 

[Sciz]

2 offseasons in a row for Patriots named Brandon

Last year a Brandon (Spikes) using his pistol on another in a video.

This year another Brandon using a pistol on another.


Will these Brandon events ever end?

Only three more Brandons on the team to do something stupid

 

[crowell33]

Only three more Brandons on the team to do something stupid

Wasn't Brandon Deadrick suspended for poor conduct ?

 

[Patspsycho]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the person who was struck by a bullet, in fact, his cousin, Quentin Taylor?

That would make it highly unlikely that Meriweather was the shooter.

However, being at the wrong place at the wrong time is going to be a problem for him as far as the personal conduct policy, both with the NFL and the Pats.

 

[jmt57]

According to the story so far, they left the problem location and went elsewhere. That's the smart thing to do. It's not on Meriweather that the someone followed them to the new location.

That's a good point, at least he did leave the club. On the other hand the place was closing so he didn't have much of a choice.

It just seems to me that a better decision would have been to go home and call it a night at that point rather than go to another party. In a small town like that it's not going to be that difficult to find Meriweather's cousin. You already have the combination of alcohol, a fight, and a guy getting into a physical confrontation with a girl. The second fight shouldn't have been totally unexpected.

Though it is indeed not on Meriweather that someone followed or found his cousin, it is at least partially on him to be at a place where he could reasonably expect there could be problems. At that point he needed to distance himself from his cousin, at least until tensions (and BAC) were lowered.

 

[Mogamedogz]

1.) The claim currently has no credibility for anything beyond Meriweather being at the location of a shooting

2.) Florida allows for carrying with a permit

3.) He was cleared in the earlier incident


In short, you're clowning yourself.

Yea... and Pacman Jones was at the location of a shooting... Why even put yourself in that kind of an environment? that's all im saying. The kid has a horrible track record of using poor judgment.

If he were a Jet... this board would be on him like a fly on ****.

 

[Deus Irae]

That's a good point, at least he did leave the club. On the other hand the place was closing so he didn't have much of a choice.

It just seems to me that a better decision would have been to go home and call it a night at that point rather than go to another party. In a small town like that it's not going to be that difficult to find Meriweather's cousin. You already have the combination of alcohol, a fight, and a guy getting into a physical confrontation with a girl. The second fight shouldn't have been totally unexpected.

Though it is indeed not on Meriweather that someone followed or found his cousin, it is at least partially on him to be at a place where he could reasonably expect there could be problems. At that point he needed to distance himself from his cousin, at least until tensions (and BAC) were lowered.

I can't think of single instance in my life where anyone I know/knew took the action you're talking about in such a situation. There's no reason for it. If they can hunt down the one person, they can most likely hunt down the other if they choose. Most people aren't going to leave family hanging in situations like that.

Yea... and Pacman Jones was at the location of a shooting... Why even put yourself in that kind of an environment? that's all im saying. The kid has a horrible track record of using poor judgment.

If he were a Jet... this board would be on him like a fly on ****.

Because they had left the scene of a confrontation and were followed. Blaming Meriweather for that is about as idiotic as it gets. Your argument isn't all that much different than blaming Sean Taylor for being shot in his own home, since he was at the location of a shooting.

 

[Mogamedogz]

I can't think of single instance in my life where anyone I know/knew took the action you're talking about in such a situation. There's no reason for it. If they can hunt down the one person, they can most likely hunt down the other if they choose. Most people aren't going to leave family hanging in situations like that.




Because they had left the scene of a confrontation and were followed. Blaming Meriweather for that is about as idiotic as it gets. Your argument isn't all that much different than blaming Sean Taylor for being shot in his own home, since he was at the location of a shooting.

Really?? Sean Taylor?? Who was shot and killed defending his home?

He left a seedy club with a bunch of thugs who just got into a violent confrontation, and carried on with them to a house party in the hood at 2 o'clock in the morning.

WHY WOULD HE EVER SUSPECT THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN?

Stop snorting the Kool-Aid Deus... The dude put himself in a bad situation. How can you even argue this?

 

[Deus Irae]

Really?? Sean Taylor?? Who was shot and killed defending his home?

He left a seedy club with a bunch of thugs who just got into a violent confrontation, and carried on with them to a house party in the hood at 2 o'clock in the morning.

WHY WOULD HE EVER SUSPECT THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN?

Stop snorting the Kool-Aid Deus... The dude put himself in a bad situation. How can you even argue this?

Leaving a bad situation and going elsewhere, to a different party, is not automatically putting one's self in a bad situation. If you can't grasp this, you should never leave your room.

And Shawn Taylor put himself at the scene of a shooting, which was the inanity you injected about Pacman.

 

[Sciz]

Wasn't Brandon Deadrick suspended for poor conduct ?

Yeah, but that was just for being late and stuff. Nothing illegal there. Tate did fail a weed test though, so only McGowan and Deaderick left!

 

[jmt57]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the person who was struck by a bullet, in fact, his cousin, Quentin Taylor?

That would make it highly unlikely that Meriweather was the shooter.

However, being at the wrong place at the wrong time is going to be a problem for him as far as the personal conduct policy, both with the NFL and the Pats.

Cousins of Meriweather were on both sides of the fight.


The cast:

- Quentin Taylor (Meriweather's cousin) - shot in mouth
- Nico Stanley (friend of Taylor) - person whom shot was allegedly fired at (that instead struck Taylor)
- Cedric Payne (another cousin of Meriweather)
- Michael Simmons (friend of Nico Stanley)
- Valerie Griffin (Nico Stanley's godmother)
- Ebone Stanley (sister of Nico Stanley)
- Cajun Peterson (owner of car E Stanley was driving)
- India Ware (passenger in car)
- Sean Peterson (passenger, suspected of owning handgun found in car)
- An Unknown Witness (told story to Globe)
- Anton Massey (alleged shooter)
- Adam Swickle (Meriweather's lawyer)
- John Morgan (Taylor and Stanley's lawyer)
- Dan Sileo (radio talk show host who first made story public)
- Harold Cummings (police officer)
- Steven Harmon (police officer)

- First there was a fight at closing time that involved Payne and Ebone Stanley.
- Later Nico Stanley and Quentin Taylor beat up Payne.
- Meriweather tried to break up that fight.
- A shot was fired by someone - the unknown witness says it was Anton Massey - that was supposed to be aimed for Nico Stanley. It grazed him and caused the injury to Quentin Taylor.
- Michael Simmons and Valerie Griffin drive Stanley and Taylor to hospital.
- Officers Cummings and Harmon pull over car driven by Ebone Stanley (the girl roughed up by Payne); a gun and forty rounds of ammunition were found. The two Petersons are also related to one of the gunshot victims. Maybe both, it's hard to tell who's related to whom at this point.
- Sileo starts talking about story; Deadspin picks it up.
- Taylor and Stanley engage the services of Morgan.
- Unknown Witness tells Globe reporters that Anton Massey was the person that fired the gun.
- Swickle points out no allegations against Meriweather; will have BM talk to local police.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Really?? Sean Taylor?? Who was shot and killed defending his home?

He left a seedy club with a bunch of thugs who just got into a violent confrontation, and carried on with them to a house party in the hood at 2 o'clock in the morning.

WHY WOULD HE EVER SUSPECT THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN?

Stop snorting the Kool-Aid Deus... The dude put himself in a bad situation. How can you even argue this?
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Its easy for us to say this but he grew up in a different environement and culture, you cant ask him not to associate with his family and friends. Sounds to me like he used good judgement and just ran into some bad*******s

 

[jmt57]

I can't think of single instance in my life where anyone I know/knew took the action you're talking about in such a situation. There's no reason for it. If they can hunt down the one person, they can most likely hunt down the other if they choose. Most people aren't going to leave family hanging in situations like that.

They were looking for Cedric Payne, not Meriweather. If Meriweather wanted to watch out for Payne then perhaps he should have gotten him out of the area until everybody cooled off.

Don't forget that Quentin Taylor, who was shot in the mouth, was family too. The fight involved cousins on both sides.

 

[Mogamedogz]

Leaving a bad situation and going elsewhere, to a different party, is not automatically putting one's self in a bad situation . If you can't grasp this, you should never leave your room.

And Shawn Taylor put himself at the scene of a shooting, which was the inanity you injected about Pacman.

No, it isnt "automatically" putting putting yourself in a bad situation... Going to some after party in a South Florida slum with a bunch of thugs who just got into fight and "allegedly" smacked some woman around IS. This guy is 27 years old and married with a couple of young kids... you dont think going (oh, I dont know) HOME would have been the obvious thing to do considering the circumstances?

You're just wayyyy too far stuck up pat the patriots arss to reason with buddy. The guy is a bonehead. Im sorry you are too blinded with homerism to see this.

 

[Deus Irae]

They were looking for Cedric Payne, not Meriweather. If Meriweather wanted to watch out for Payne then perhaps he should have gotten him out of the area until everybody cooled off.

Don't forget that Quentin Taylor, who was shot in the mouth, was family too. The fight involved cousins on both sides.

There is no "area" when people are pissed off. If someone wants to carry on a grudge bad enough, you can't get away from them short of going to the police station.

 

[Mogamedogz]

Its easy for us to say this but he grew up in a different environement and culture, you cant ask him not to associate with his family and friends. Sounds to me like he used good judgement and just ran into some bad*******s

I grew up in a pretty ****ty environment, manged to do pretty well for myself (not nearly as well as Brandon) and I tend to try and bring my family and friends up with me... what i dont do, is bring myself down with them. Nobody is suggesting that he not associate with the people he grew up with... just dont associate with the reckless lifestyle that some of them live.

 

[Mogamedogz]

They were looking for Cedric Payne, not Meriweather. If Meriweather wanted to watch out for Payne then perhaps he should have gotten him out of the area altogether and called it a night.

Good posting.

 

[Deus Irae]

No, it isnt "automatically" putting putting yourself in a bad situation... Going to some after party in a South Florida slum with a bunch of thugs who just got into fight and "allegedly" smacked some woman around IS. This guy is 27 years old and married with a couple of young kids... you dont think going (oh, I dont know) HOME would have been the obvious thing to do considering the circumstances?

You're just wayyyy too far stuck up pat the patriots arss to reason with buddy. The guy is a bonehead. Im sorry you are too blinded with homerism to see this.

I'm too far stuck up the Patriots, and I'm a homer?

Shall I give you a list of posters on this site who'd love to differ with you on that one? Hell, feel free to start with the mods.


An altercation happened. Meriweather left the location of the altercation and went elsewhere. That's what he should have done. There was no need for him to go home.

Your argument just sucks.