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[Nunchucks]

Some don't think it would have mattered much.

Quote from the end of the article.

He would have been there. Of course we also know that Trump was ignoring the intelligence briefing that warned him that this was going to happen. So in that context, it would not have mattered.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Good things about today's conference from President:

1. Releasing Defense Production Act in NY and WA with CA getting approved shortly;
2. Mobilizing National Guard in above 3 states to help out;
3. Sending military field hospitals with capacities from 1,000 to 2,000 beds to above 3 states;
4. Processing delivery of thousands of n-95 masks, surgeon masks, tobes, scrubs, gloves etc. To above 3 states and others. Figures were actually provided;

Things are moving in the right direction. Let's all hope there's still time for this to help mitigate this nasty virus.

Re: 4, figures I heard this morning of what will be needed are staggering. Morning Joe, our ol' buddy Zeke Emanuel (of all people). I'm sure those numbers can be found elsewhere too.

But yes, step 1, talk about actual numbers. Then step 2, get all the relevant information out there.

Also heard POTUS is setting up "The Second Guessing Show" where we all guess "The Decision" after the first 15 days of the present program.

DOJ wants to detain Americans indefinitely without charges, and allow Barr to "pause court proceedings" as long as desired.

Rand Paul positive. Went to the Senate gym after being tested. Other Senators, obviously, have been exposed. There are reports that the gym is closed, but that closure is only enforced with a combination lock, to which they have the combination. Guess what some Senators are reported to be doing.

The Senate has no provision to vote from a distance.

Stay aware. At least know how it happened if something goes down on the government structure side, at the very least. For frak's sake.

 

[primetime]

Re: 4, figures I heard this morning of what will be needed are staggering. Morning Joe, our ol' buddy Zeke Emanuel (of all people). I'm sure those numbers can be found elsewhere too.

But yes, step 1, talk about actual numbers. Then step 2, get all the relevant information out there.

Also heard POTUS is setting up "The Second Guessing Show" where we all guess "The Decision" after the first 15 days of the present program.

DOJ wants to detain Americans indefinitely without charges, and allow Barr to "pause court proceedings" as long as desired.

Rand Paul positive. Went to the Senate gym after being tested. Other Senators, obviously, have been exposed. There are reports that the gym is closed, but that closure is only enforced with a combination lock, to which they have the combination. Guess what some Senators are reported to be doing.

The Senate has no provision to vote from a distance.

Stay aware. At least know how it happened if something goes down on the government structure side, at the very least. For frak's sake.

Rand Paul's a physician lmaooo

Too bad his neighbor wasn't there to beat him up before he used the gym

 

[RobertWeathers]

He would have been there. Of course we also know that Trump was ignoring the intelligence briefing that warned him that this was going to happen. So in that context, it would not have mattered.

It was a she.

Regardless, I see what your motivation is.

 

[PP2]

I agree on all points but I think we're seeing stronger responses as the numbers rise. So in short I think we'll get ahead of this sooner rather then later.

The news of 45 minute test kits is huge.

The roll out of hundreds of thousands test kits is huge.

We began the testing extremely late but we're coming on strong.

Based on an R2 growth rate we're looking at possibly over a million infected if not more. So it's a daunting task for sure but it looks like we're doing what's needed to minimize the damage.

All this will help at some point, hopefully in the summertime/fall time.

In the next month or two, we'll fully realize the extent of the damage of not responding fast enough. To quote a well-known virologist: "April will be worse, and May will be worse than April."

It's going to get much worse before it gets better.

 

[PP2]

Some don't think it would have mattered much.

Quote from the end of the article.

The blatant incompetence at the Federal level has been far more devastating to this country than anything China may or may not have done.

Since when should we ever depend on a belligerent country to be straightforward with us or to take care of business by itself? All the signs were there that China was doing things the wrong way, but that information was still getting out. There were plenty of clues and hints, but no actions were taken until well after the virus got entrenched here.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The blatant incompetence at the Federal level has been far more devastating to this country than anything China may or may not have done.

Since when should we ever depend on a belligerent country to be straightforward with us or to take care of business by itself? All the signs were there that China was doing things the wrong way, but that information was still getting out. There were plenty of clues and hints, but no actions were taken until well after the virus got entrenched here.

Experts don't agree with the position that having a CDC staffer in China would have made a difference. That is the article.

But I would urge you to never let China off the hook regardless of you dissatisfaction of the US Govt.

 

[Nunchucks]

Experts don't agree with the position that having a CDC staffer in China would have made a difference. That is the article.

But I would urge you to never let China off the hook regardless of you dissatisfaction of the US Govt.

Let china off the hook? How do we hold them accountable?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Let china off the hook? How do we hold them accountable?

In terms of blame

 

[venecol]

So people in Nigeria are watching these daily briefings. Huh

This is the issue with creating confusion and misinformation instead of relying on the experts to provide clarity.

Nigeria records chloroquine poisoning after Trump endorses it for coronavirus treatment - CNN

 

[Nunchucks]

In terms of blame

Right, an authoritarian government that we have no influence over. Like BB says, control what you can control.

 

[1960Pats]

and I don’t find that unreasonable and we are only talking about non violent offenders

That's what Barack Hussein Obama said when he pardoned more prisoners, many who used guns in their crimes, than all other Presidents COMBINED.

Here's the complete list;

Pardons Granted by President Barack Obama (2009-2017)

 

[1960Pats]

The rest of us already know. It's not rocket science dude.

It can't be rocket science if a Jete fan understands it. They have trouble with basic spelling.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Right, an authoritarian government that we have no influence over. Like BB says, control what you can control.

Even though I think they are as useless as tits on a bull and would never happen, it would be reasonable for the UN to levy sanctions against the Chinese Govt.

Seeing how they are members of the SC and so is Russia, it might be tough to get it voted through.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Snopes does not lean left. Statement of fact. Moving on.

They were fact-checking Babylon Bee, a right-leaning satire site a-la The Onion. They definitely lean left.

 

[JackBauer]

That's what Barack Hussein Obama said when he pardoned more prisoners, many who used guns in their crimes, than all other Presidents COMBINED.

Here's the complete list;

Pardons Granted by President Barack Obama (2009-2017)

Good to see Barack HUSSEIN Obama still lives rent free in your head.

 

[BTTA]

The litmus test is how well you think Trump handled the initial response. The hoax crap is just icing on the cake.

The good news for everyone is that we are responding much better now.

Actually, whether or not he actually made a literal connection between the virus and the word "hoax" is in fact a distraction being played up by his media outlets. Like you said, it doesn't matter in the bigger picture. His media outlets have this playbook down really well: fixate on a single fact in a larger argument, and then drumbeat it to death. It ensures that his base continues to believe they are victims, and (most importantly) obscures clarity and learning for everyone else.

 

[1960Pats]

Except of course, the ones who don't. And don't try to pretend there aren't people in prison who don't belong there. Many who NEVER belonged there.

This brings to mind an interesting question. Which is greater, the number of prisoners who should never have been sent there or the number of criminals who never saw a jail cell? My guess is that there are more criminals that are walking free.

 

[primetime]

Good to see Barack HUSSEIN Obama still lives rent free in your head.

Republican Guard Barracks Saddam Hussein Obama bin Laden more like

 

[Adam Seward]

Refreshing press conference