Coronavirus RESPECTFUL Discussion Only! (Mod edit: Closed)

[JetFan79]

Me too, but we probably aren't talking about the same exit.

Dude.

 

[fightingirish595]

We incarcerate more people per capita than any other country, most are for non violent crimes. You seriously want to let them all die and the prisons become cesspools? ************.

I’m not here to say I agree or disagree with festys post. But holy **** what a bad faithed straw man

 

[festy1986]

1. That’s not because they are in prison. I wouldn’t put you ahead of person I love either. In fact if someone I loved was in prison I’d put them ahead of you or any stranger as well. That’s a non point.

2. Being in prison doesn’t mean you should be more at risk of getting sick and dying

literal craziness

Your issue is not with me.

You mean nothing to me but your personal freedoms are intact because you havent committed crimes, even low level crimes.

And yes, if it came to it your personal health does in fact matter more than a criminals.

That's the right you've earned by not being a ******* to society.

I'm not here to argue wether or not there is a % of prisoners who dont belong there or if human compassion extends to all.

If you cant comprehend that you come first because you earned it then you dont believe in the system to begin with.

Italy is currently just straight up letting old people die simply because they are old. No one likes it but it's the decision they had to make and best believe if it comes law abiding citizens or prisoners the choice isnt all that hard.

 

[lancerman]

I’m not here to say I agree or disagree with festys post. But holy **** what a bad faithed straw man

It’s really not. It means that for better or worse if we let the prison population go unsupported it means we will effectively condemn more people than anyone in the world for it.

 

[lancerman]

Your issue is not with me.

You mean nothing to me but your personal freedoms are intact because you havent committed crimes, even low level crimes.

And yes, if it came to it your personal health does in fact matter more than a criminals.

That's the right you've earned by not being a ******* to society.

I'm not here to argue wether or not there is a % of prisoners who dont belong there or if human compassion extends to all.

If you cant comprehend that you come first because you earned it then you dont believe in the system to begin with.

Italy is currently just straight up letting old people die simply because they are old. No one likes it but it's the decision they had to make and best believe if it comes law abiding citizens or prisoners the choice isnt all that hard.

People don’t “earn” the right to healthcare and the efforts to avoid succumbing to a pandemic.

Get out of here with this judgmental crap. Go play god somewhere else.

 

[fightingirish595]

It’s really not. It means that for better or worse if we let the prison population go unsupported it means we will effectively condemn more people than anyone in the world for it.

“you seriously want to let them all die?”.... yikes

 

[festy1986]

People don’t “earn” the right to healthcare and the efforts to avoid succumbing to a pandemic.

Get out of here with this judgmental crap. Go play god somewhere else.

You're not playing with a full deck. It's fine.

Let me spell it out for you.

If you murder, rape, child molest, **** animals, commit tax fraud, high treason or any other felony, you're now last on the list when it comes to wether you deserve your life or not when it comes to making those decisions.

I will not apologize for caring about wether or not my family or yours comes first.

This article specifies low level offenders but I havent committed a low level offense that landed me in federal or state prison and I certainly have earned the right to access that these clowns have not.

If you have a problem with that then your showing an agenda that far reaches outside of this virus.

 

[lancerman]

“you seriously want to let them all die?”.... yikes

Okay have fun with your semantics and getting in bed with someone who is saying prisoner deserve less care then the rest of the population.

And no your little qualifier doesn’t absolve you from that. And that’s a bigger “yikes” than anything I said.

 

[festy1986]

Okay have fun with your semantics and getting in bed with someone who is saying prisoner deserve less care then the rest of the population.

And no your little qualifier doesn’t absolve you from that. And that’s a bigger “yikes” than anything I said.

I didnt day they deserve less care.

I said in a time where we have to prioritize where this care goes to, they are dead last.

And so should all thse clowns partying in south beach.

 

[venecol]

I guess we all deal in different ways.

I usually deal in a clockwise direction.

 

[fightingirish595]

Okay have fun with your semantics and getting in bed with someone who is saying prisoner deserve less care then the rest of the population.

And no your little qualifier doesn’t absolve you from that. And that’s a bigger “yikes” than anything I said.

I didn’t see festy say they deserve less care. My only point here is that you definitely misrepresented what festy was saying.

 

[lancerman]

You're not playing with a full deck. It's fine.

Let me spell it out for you.

If you murder, rape, child molest, **** animals, commit tax fraud, high treason or any other felony, you're now last on the list when it comes to wether you deserve your life or not when it comes to making those decisions.

I will not apologize for caring about wether or not my family or yours comes first.

This article specifies low level offenders but I havent committed a low level offense that landed me in federal or state prison and I certainly have earned the right to access that these clowns have not.

If you have a problem with that then your showing an agenda that far reaches outside of this virus.

Congrats you listed 6 out of hundreds of laws that can send you to prison. This includes non violent drug possession, this included the abundance of people falsely incarcerated (which stats back up), this includes failures to pay child support (for whatever reason), and we can keep going.

I’m not interested in going back and forth with unempathetic people that clearly aren’t qualified to make decisions like this (and thank god you aren’t and thank god many in power don’t agree with you)

 

[lancerman]

I didn’t see festy say they deserve less care. My only point here is that you definitely misrepresented what festy was saying.

He literally said they come last to everyone else.

 

[fightingirish595]

He literally said they come last to everyone else.

If he said that I must’ve missed it. I thought valid questions were presented in his OP about the issue.

The releasing of prisoners doesn’t bother me. But I want to know who is getting released and who isn’t.

 

[festy1986]

Congrats you listed 6 out of hundreds of laws that can send you to prison. This includes non violent drug possession, this included the abundance of people falsely incarcerated (which stats back up), this includes failures to pay child support (for whatever reason), and we can keep going.

I’m not interested in going back and forth with unempathetic people that clearly aren’t qualified to make decisions like this (and thank god you aren’t and thank god many in power don’t agree with you)

You've put me and everyone else here on the same plain as men who've commit felonies.

Congratulations. And while you've disregarded me as a no one even compared to a felon, I still feel strongly that your american rights (you american) are fully intact and have the right to sound as foolish as you want.

Again, let me reiterate for those who cant comprehend. I FULLY SUPPORT PRISONERS RIGHTS TO HEALTHCARE THAT CAN PREVENT THEM FROM DYING OF A VIRUS THAT NONE OF US SHOULD BE DEALING WITH.

What I dont support is those prisoners, even the low leveled ones having access to such treatment before me or anyone else who somehow have gone their entire life without ending up in a ****ing prison.

What a joke it is to release prisoners out of jail and not serve their sentence because they might get sick.

 

[Kdo5]

I like this thread.

 

[lancerman]

If he said that I must’ve missed it. I thought valid questions were presented in his OP about the issue.

The releasing of prisoners doesn’t bother me. But I want to know who is getting released and who isn’t.

and I don’t find that unreasonable and we are only talking about non violent offenders

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Me too, but we probably aren't talking about the same exit.

 

[festy1986]

If he said that I must’ve missed it. I thought valid questions were presented in his OP about the issue.

The releasing of prisoners doesn’t bother me. But I want to know who is getting released and who isn’t.

Prisoners come last. They dont have the same rights as you.

In Italy they are letting people die in the hallways of hospitals literally based on their age.

Does that sound fair to you? If America had to start making crazy hard decisions like that would you choose a prisoners access to that medical access over your grandparents?

This isnt a crazy opinion, if you out here committing crimes that put you in prison my compassion extends to you last. Not everyone is equal and that's ridiculous simple way of looking at it

 

[festy1986]

and I don’t find that unreasonable and we are only talking about non violent offenders

You go ahead and show the rest of us how non violent offenders released into the public helps stunt this virus from spreading and then we can talk.