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[manxman2601]

This is where things get tricky. Nobody can actually believe that 1/8 inch is going to make the difference between Campbell being a successful tackle or not, yet you need to set a cutoff somewhere. Taking him in the top 10 would be a huge risk.

He’s still the best LT in the draft.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

He’s still the best LT in the draft.

I seen that they like to have LT have 34 inch arms
Then other articles say 33 inch arms
Is 33 inch tge acceptable length but 34 the preference
Wondering if you know

 

[EMpats]

I seen that they like to have LT have 34 inch arms
Then other articles say 33 inch arms
Is 33 inch tge acceptable length but 34 the preference
Wondering if you know

Apparently 34 was always seen as the cutoff until a couple of guys recently were successful with 33 inch arms (Rashawn slater, penai Sewell). 34 is still considered ideal.

 

[ViperGTS]

DL running 40s right now. Couple of sub 5 second guys. Dunno, something about 300 plus pounds coming at you that fast...

 

[borisman]

DL running 40s right now. Couple of sub 5 second guys. Dunno, something about 300 plus pounds coming at you that fast...

Kind of like Braden Fiske last year. That was scary.

 

[Salsalife]

1 oline , 2 dline, 3,dline 3(2) dline. Bring the young wide bodies! This is the year! Barrmore's new family

 

[signbabybrady]

DL running 40s right now. Couple of sub 5 second guys. Dunno, something about 300 plus pounds coming at you that fast...

 

[manxman2601]

I seen that they like to have LT have 34 inch arms
Then other articles say 33 inch arms
Is 33 inch tge acceptable length but 34 the preference
Wondering if you know

It'll differ from team to team. Longer is obviously better and 33" is considered the minimum. The question is, do you make an exception for 1/8"?

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

It'll differ from team to team. Longer is obviously better and 33" is considered the minimum. The question is, do you make an exception for 1/8"?

I think it could if you have already thought that 33 was the minimum and you were stretching at that point
But like you said each team has their own guidlines
If Scar is working with them in their picks then I say Yes you make the exception

 

[Huckleberry1]

This is where things get tricky. Nobody can actually believe that 1/8 inch is going to make the difference between Campbell being a successful tackle or not, yet you need to set a cutoff somewhere. Taking him in the top 10 would be a huge risk.

The “ cut off” should be whether he can play LT in the pro’s, and if 1/8 is the difference then by all means take him. If accurate this puts Campbell on my list at #4. He’s not Joe Alt but he will be a really good OL for years.

 

[lancerman]

He’s still the best LT in the draft.

A draft can be weak at a position. There's some drafts where 6 QB's go top 12. There's one where only one goes in the top 20.

Being the best in a draft isn't as important as how you are as a prospect.

Idk why we would pass up one of the two top d-lineman in the draft at 4 to take a much bigger risk at offensive line just because we really want one to be worth it. That's how you end up getting bust and regretting it.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

In the 1973 NFL draft, the Patriots selected an OG named John Hannah with the fourth pick in the first round.

Comparing Fat Gator Armed Guard Campbell to John Hannah. Please get out of here.

 

[TommyD4207]

Simmons by 100 miles….there are literally 20 defensive tackles in this class who will be legit nfl players. Simmons might be the only true left tackle to come out of this class.

It's literally 20. If you need a defensive tackle, any style, 1-gap, 2-gap, pass rusher, big fatty, they're all available and there will be in the first 3 rounds at least.

Hell, you'll be able to get a good rotational piece in the 6th or 7th.

 

[raduray]

 

[slash83]

I’m taking him at 4 unless Carter or Hunter are on the board.

 

[scott99]

I’m taking him at 4 unless Carter or Hunter are on the board.

Agreed 1000000000%

 

[Brick27]

An eighth of an inch can be a measuring error, a guy not stretching fully, a middle finger being slightly shorter relative to arm length, etc. If they choose Campbell so be it. With whoever they choose, just hope they are emphatic in their research and assessment. That it’s the best guy on the board in there eyes and most likely to succeed, and have full conviction with all the resources that go into that call.

 

[signbabybrady]

An eighth of an inch can be a measuring error, a guy not stretching fully, a middle finger being slightly shorter relative to arm length, etc. If they choose Campbell so be it. With whoever they choose, just hope they are emphatic in their research and assessment. That it’s the best guy on the board in there eyes and most likely to succeed, and have full conviction with all the resources that go into that call.

Isn't it more likely that he's probably doing things to make the measurements in his favor? He's probably stretching it out to the max or whatever.

Bottom line is the data shows it's a concern but if he's the best tackle available then do you really want a lesser prospect just because of an inch.

I mean the motion in the ocean can overcome a little bit of size.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Isn't it more likely that he's probably doing things to make the measurements in his favor? He's probably stretching it out to the max or whatever.

Bottom line is the data shows it's a concern but if he's the best tackle available then do you really want a lesser prospect just because of an inch.

I mean the motion in the ocean can overcome a little bit of size.

I think you are mistaken in regards to the data. From what I have heard discussed in regards to tackles with arms shorter than 33” the data is about the percent of starting left tackles in the NFL with arms shorter than 33”, not about their ability to play the position. IMO this reflects kind of a self fulfilling prophecy where teams started drafting tackles with longer arms and moving those with slightly shorter arms inside. I’m not saying that it isn’t more desirable for your tackles to have longer arms, but I am saying that it shouldn’t be a disqualifier if the player has always played the position at a high level but their arms are fractionally shorter than other prospects. I would be far more concerned if a tackle was slow footed or had ****ty balance, or simply did not play tough enough for the position. If he had 31 inch arms I could see it being an issue, but as it stands his arm length is 1/8 shorter than Rashawn Slater, and 3/8 shorter than Penei Sewell.

Campbell has been starting at Left Tackle for LSU since day one of his college career, and has faced the best pass rushers in the country throughout that time, only giving up 4 sacks in 3 years. He would be a massive upgrade for the Patriots OL. And if next years draft gives them an opportunity for another top tackle they could always take them and bump Campbell inside, which would just make their OL that much better.

Ultimately I think percentiles matter to a limited degree, but you then have to look at the individual player to see whether it effects their play or not, and I think it’s safe to say with Campbell that it doesn’t effect his play.

 

[Salsalife]

He will protect our franchise qb from day 1. Drake, he's got your backside clean. Throw some dimes and start the winning again.